The prow:ref tag emerged from a discussion I started on this list about the problem of using the ref tag to refer to PROW references. The specific problem was that some highways were also designated footpaths / bridleways, and so if the ref tag was used to tag a rights of way reference it was given the same rendering priority on these ways as a road reference. There was also no way to distinguish between a ref tag which was for a road reference, and a ref tag which was for a prow reference on that road. Thus the prow:ref tag was suggested.

At a later stage I noted the prow_ref tag started to be used. I did not follow the discussion / reasoning behind that, but I find it hard to believe that we need both a prow_ref tag and a prow:ref tag. So I assume the prow_ref tag supoerceeded the prow:ref tag, but for the reasoning outlined in the first paragraph I would not think it helpful to simple use the plain "ref" tag on the Isle of Wight.

I cant follow the logic of "Visibly signed things go into 'ref'", since that would seem to mean we don't need lcn_ref tags as these are visible signed.

David




------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Norris" <rw_nor...@hotmail.com>
To: "Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" <talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>; "David Groom" <revi...@pacific-rim.net>
Sent: 10/01/2017 00:36:41
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] tag prow_ref

If I remember correctly the use of "prow_ref" tag is normally when the reference is taken from the Council ROW information documents that are compatible with OSM.
'ref' is used when the Reference itself is on the signed on the ground.
Thus for the Isle Of Wight, it is probably recommended to use the 'ref' field since I believe most if not all ROW on the IOW have the reference on the sign posts. Whereas for most of the rest of England and Wales, only rarely are the ROW references put on sign posts (I don't know of anywhere else that does it consistently compared to the IOW). The only times I normally see ROW references are on permissive notices or temporary route diversion notices. Thus similar to the recommendation for 'C' road references vs A/B Roads. Visibly signed things go into 'ref' so used for A/B roads. 'official_ref' or similar should be used for C roads.

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From: David Groom <revi...@pacific-rim.net>
Sent: 09 January 2017 23:56:51
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] tag prow_ref

Has any one got any instances of any providers of OSM data using the prow_ref on rendering / routing

I recently pointed out to a mapper that if the reference numbers he was adding to footpaths were official PROW reference numbers it was recommended to use the "prow_ref" tag rather than the plain "ref" tag. He's now amended his entries to prow_ref but is a little disappointed it doesn't show up on the main map, OsmAnd, or Maps.me.

I have pointed out to him that OSM is mainly a provider of data, not maps, so not everything is rendered on the man map, but it would be nice if I could point him in the direction of where it is being used, other than my own web site and custom OsmAnd file.

Thanks

David






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