I agree with your latter point about the tagging being consistent with the tagging of junctions. I don't think I've ever seen an advanced stop line at a crossing though.
Regards, Adam On 10 Mar 2017 8:25 p.m., "Edward Catmur" <ecat...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Option 3 appears to be the only way to map an asl or to signify its > (rather their) absence. I don't think you can tag a combined (option 1) > crossing node with cycleway=asl. > > It's also more consistent if nearby road junctions are mapped in detail > for standalone crossings to be mapped similarly. > > On 10 Mar 2017 16:40, "Brian Prangle" <bpran...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Personally I think it's overkill >> >> On 10 March 2017 at 13:12, Adam Snape <adam.c.sn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Brian, >>> >>> That's what I'd observed to be the norm around here too. But, is the >>> more verbose option to be encouraged because it explicitly notes the >>> presence of traffic lights for road traffic (crossing=traffic_signals just >>> means signals for pedestrians), or is it just unnecessary complexity (the >>> presence of vehicle traffic signals could implied from the presence of >>> pedestrian ones) ? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> On 10 March 2017 at 12:55, Brian Prangle <bpran...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Adam >>>> >>>> I think option 1 is the consensus way to map these, certainly so in the >>>> West Midlands. Option 3 is more verbose but not incorrect. Option 2 omits >>>> the salient feature which is highway=crossing and so is not recommended >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> On 9 March 2017 at 12:23, Adam Snape <adam.c.sn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I recently noticed this changeset comment: >>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/46680980 >>>>> >>>>> It seems that the Wiki suggests three alternative ways of mapping a >>>>> pedestrian traffic-light controlled crossing: >>>>> 1. Entire crossing mapped as a node: highway >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=crossing + crossing >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing>=traffic_signals >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:crossing%3Dtraffic_signals> >>>>> 2. Entire crossing mapped as a node (alternative): highway >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=*traffic_signals* + >>>>> crossing <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing>= >>>>> traffic_signals >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:crossing%3Dtraffic_signals> >>>>> 3. Crossing mapped separately and tagged highway >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=crossing >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcrossing> + >>>>> crossing <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing>= >>>>> traffic_signals >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:crossing%3Dtraffic_signals> >>>>> Traffic lights tagged: highway >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=*traffic_signals* + >>>>> crossing <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing>=no + >>>>> traffic_signals:direction >>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_signals:direction> >>>>> =forward/backward >>>>> >>>>> According to the Wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.or >>>>> g/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtraffic_signals), the latter is strongly >>>>> recommended: >>>>> >>>>> Historically I've tended to use the specific UK shortcuts eg. >>>>> highway=crossing crossing=pelican but I'm happy to change if the consensus >>>>> is that any of the above methods are to be preferred. I've never been >>>>> happy >>>>> that crossings aren't rendered with a traffic light symbol but have no >>>>> wish >>>>> to tag for the renderer. My worry with Option 3 is that some routing >>>>> programs might view it as two (or even three) separate sets of traffic >>>>> lights. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice gratefully received, >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Talk-GB mailing list >>>>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >>
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