Hi, thanks for all the responses. I have started mapping community councils
in Edinburgh. This link is useful for anyone else planning to do so:
http://socprojects.napier.ac.uk/is/Edinburgh/

I will hold off on adding area committees for now. As far as I can tell
they often coincide with community council boundaries, which is helpful if
we decide in future they should be added.

Saoirse

On 26 May 2018 at 14:32, SK53 <sk53....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Adding such things tends to be down to local mappers. The best source for
> accurate boundaries is OS Open Data Boundary Line: this needs a little
> experience to process well, but IIRC JOSM handles it reasonably well.
>
> I don't think area committees, at least in Argyll & Bute, have anything
> like the same powers and responsibilities as English District Councils (the
> main admin_level=8 grouping), and technically are committees of the full
> council just like finance, planning etc., rather than being separate legal
> entities. (Such powers as are delegated are mentioned alongside the basic
> delegations to officers needed for effective administration, see A&B's
> constitution
> <https://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/sites/default/files/council-and-government/constitution-part-c_0.pdf>.
> A good concrete example is that English District Councils have Returning
> Officers, whereas the A&B Returning Officer is the Head of Customer
> Services.) Nor am I sure if the area committees have any dedicated staff,
> although I find it hard to see how they can achieve anything without a
> minimum of secretarial support.
>
> I would therefore suggest these are not formal administrative boundaries
> (in OSM terms), and certainly the admin_level=8 should be avoided. We don't
> do well in keeping non-formal admin boundaries separate from other types of
> boundaries (e.g., wards which are essentially a political boundary
> determined by the boundary commission, even if ward councillors may get
> limited budgets and councils may align service provision with the wards).
>
> As an interim approach I'd suggest using admin_level=9, but I think we
> could do with a bit more of a re-think of some of our boundary tagging (the
> bodies with powers 'devolved' upwards, such as the West Midlands Combined
> Authority (currently tagged admin_level=6, but an anomaly), is another case.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 26 May 2018 at 13:48, S M <llamas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, this is my first post on this forum.
>>
>> My question is: is there any reason why community councils in Scotland
>> are not mapped? I ask because I do a lot of mapping in Angus, and I was
>> planning to map the community councils for Angus council area, but I wanted
>> to check first. These community councils do not have as many powers as
>> English civil parishes and Welsh communities, but they do have a few
>> statutory powers.
>>
>> If they have just not been done yet, I will get started doing Angus
>> council area's community councils, and I can do Edinburgh's as well. They
>> would be admin_level=10 to fit with English civil parishes and Welsh
>> communities. It is worth noting that Scotland also has "area committees"
>> which some council areas (such as Glasgow, Aberdeenshire, Argyll and Bute
>> etc) have devolved certain powers to. If these were to be mapped they would
>> be admin_level=8 presumably.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Saoirse
>>
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