Morning all,

Someone has commented on a change I made to the Three Counties showground last year when I changed the tagging to landuse=grass rather than landuse=commercial. Their suggestion is that it really ought to be landuse=recreation_ground, with a secondary tag of surface=grass.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/74103491#map=16/52.0834/-2.3235

I've responded to that comment on the changeset, but I thought it would be worth throwing out here as well.

I do think that tagging showgrounds as landuse=commercial is generally incorrect; it doesn't match the description of 'commercial' in the wiki and doesn't reflect the typical uses of showgrounds both when a show is on and when one isn't.

The reason I tagged the Three Counties showground as grass is because, most of the year, that's precisely what it is - an open area of grassland. Unless there is an event on (which only happens for a minority of days in a year) it is just an open space.

Looking at a few other showgrounds across the country, we don't seem to have any consistency.

The East of England Showground is tagged as landuse=recreation_ground:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.5456/-0.3170

The Suffolk Showground is tagged as a park:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.0330/1.2277

So is the Staffordshire County Showgound:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.8255/-2.0643

The former Royal Showground at Stoneleigh is tagged as commercial, but in that case that's probably now correct as it's no longer used as a showground and is gradually being redeveloped as a business park:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/52.3435/-1.5220

The Great Yorkshire Showground isn't tagged as an area at all, just a network of roads and individual features:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.9830/-1.5065

Similarly with the Norfolk Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.6490/1.1793

And the Bath and West Showground:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/51.1552/-2.5265

So, what do people think? Personally, I think that showgrounds ought to be tagged as an area, because they do, typically, have clear boundaries and are distinct from their surrounding context. But I'm less sure what the area should be tagged as. I think commercial is usually wrong, for the reasons I've already given, but I can see an argument for either grass, recreation_ground or even park.

Thoughts, anyone?

Mark


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