On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 05:29:51PM +0100, Paul Berry wrote:
> >  He's citing this wiki page.
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Abbreviations
> 
> That's as may be but that page is also wrong; in the opening paragraph: "(
> *St.* could be *Street* or *Saint*)" - could be but never is. Context
> matters and is easily coded for by any renderer. Expanding "St" to "Saint"
> in the UK is, then, not only tagging for the renderer but also not ground
> truth either!

Good luck with:

Baldersby St James (https://openstreetmap.org/way/238310167)

versus

Melbourne St Allotments (https://openstreetmap.org/way/240165905)

Also nice:

Back St Anne's Street (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/176873018)
2nd St Martin's Scouts (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1350968388)

What's not to love about OpenStreetMap.

Sarah

> 
> Regards,
> *Paul*
> 
> On Thu, 18 Sept 2025 at 12:52, Dave F via Talk-GB <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > A contributor has been creating various changesets in London & the South
> > coast changing names of streets & building etc. from 'St' to saint. Such as:
> >
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/171594660
> >
> > He's citing this wiki page.
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Abbreviations
> >
> > The comment I left in it's discussion page:
> >
> > "This behaviour needs to be stopped. If the official name is 'St', to
> > represent 'saint', as listed in street gazetteers or signage, then that is
> > how it should be in the name tag (ground truth as it's known in OSM). If
> > computer programmers (not computers) can't write code to distinguish
> > abbreviations then they probably shouldn't be contributing to OSM."
> >
> > I think these changesets should be reverted.
> >
> > Opinions welcome.
> >
> > DaveF
> >
> >
> >
> >
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