Hi, That's a great idea, some minor thoughts and a big one:
If the students use Mapillary that would be great, because it means other people can check the "source" in case someone made a mistake. And we can use the mapillary images ourselves to map things the students might have missed. JOSM is good, but iD has a new feature where someone can "request review" which could allow the community to help the mapper¹. So the big bit: This is now referred to as "Organized Editing"², and the OSM Data Working Group is requesting feedback on any Policy that should be created, similar to the Import Guidelines³ (which you all should fill out!). It's to cover paid mapping, and (since elitist Germans want to bash HOT & Missing Maps) any "organised mapathon". The main question is: Who is telling the mapper what to map? How much freedom does the mapper have? If I see a dodgy/bad edit, the OSM approach is to contact the mapper and talk to them. But if the person who uploaded it is being paid to map it, then they don't have any freedom to act differently, they're just doing their job. I can't suggest that someone not add a certain thing, if the would get fired for not adding it! I should really be talking to their manager. Some classes (etc) are designed for the students to learn about OSM, and the students are only required to map /something/. In which case I have to talk to the student. It sounds like this is where the mappers will be told what to map. I suggest that the person in charge of the project post a diary entry (they do already have an OSM account, right??) explaining their project, what their experience with OSM is, where they'll be mapping, what they will be adding, what the source is, who the team members will be, etc. All of the team members should probably have a separate OSM account for the mapping, and in their OSM user profile mention that they are working on a certain project, and include a link to the person in charge of the project. Perhaps they should also details in changeset comments/tags about the project. This way, if anyone sees a dodgy edit, we know who to ask about it. It's also important that the people running this project know about OSM. Sometimes people think it's a generic geo-data-store, where you have private layers, and can just store whatever you need to there. Nope, we're all in one database. So other mappers might come along and fix/change/improve/delete something you add, if appropriate. This may or not affect your project. Sometimes people react to this with "We need the data in this form for our project, stop changing/deleting it". But if the data is "wrong" (by OSM standards) then tough. This could be a problem for a project, so they should (i) be aware of it and (ii) have some idea of what they should do if this happens. The other thing that could help is for the leader and members to post to this mailing list, or try to get engaged in the OSM community. OSM is both a free geo-database, and a community of people who want to create a free geo-database. Engagement with the community could help them learn a lot more, get questions answered, get help, etc. It would be great to spruce up data in some places, and (hopefully) spawn more mappers! Hope that helps, Rory ---- ¹ http://neis-one.org/2017/09/review-requests-osm/ ² https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organized_Editing_Policy ³ https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/09/22/dwg-survey-on-organised-editing/ On 27/09/17 00:48, Ciarán Staunton wrote:
Dublin Institute of Technology are running a semester long class study of Balbriggan. This is with their undergrads B.Sc in Environmental Management and Spatial Planning. They have decided to use openstreetmap for Balbriggan, but obviously it would need a lot of detail added to get the particular data they want. I have talked to their teachers and advised them on getting JOSM into their lab machines to do some desktop mapping initially. However, they want to also survey so I have recommended Mapillary, Street Complete, OSM tracker, and maps.me... as well as a paper solution with field papers. Has anyone else heard of a localised effort like this? I think the class has 20 students. _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
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