Ok, finally someone that really knows the case! so. First, if it is like that, then a proper authorization to use the timetables and routes, one by one, granted by veolia, keolis and transdev would do for a great amount of pt companies in france. Correct? I happen to have contacted veolia's director of developpement and innovation, who, verbally, i know, told me that no o'e would ever oppose me, at least in veolia, for taking these timetables, one by one, from all subsidiary transporters' sites. The same for routes. If i cannot trust this kind of saying...then, who can i trust? For more technical details, i will send you another email, as i'm still better in french than in english, especially for such technical language... but thank you for someone from french pt answering, at last!
Le lundi 6 décembre 2010, Jacques Lys <jacq...@famille-lys.com> a écrit : > Hello, > I'm afraid you're wrong : Transit data are generally not freely available in > France.You should know that legally, PT are the responsibility of local > authorities. In fact these authorities entrust the operation of PT networks > to companies which are often subsidiaries of three major groups (Keolis, > Transdev and Veolia ... soon 2 because Transdev and Veolia are expected to > merge!) through "Delegations de Service Public" (Delegations of Public > Service) concluded for a fixed period (often 10 years). > > In fact, PT data are most often seen by agencies as being critical data they > have to protect while submitting tender for "Delegation de Service Public". > Contrary to what you seem to believe, nobody enjoys 'nice governmental jobs' > in French PT (almost all agencies are under common law...) and it's not by > simple jealousy that employees wanting to protect their jobs refuse to submit > data! > > Fortunately, for some time, the trend seems to be in setting PT data free : > local authorities are more and more seeing themselves as the PT data owners > and some of them are planning to make those data freely available to the > public. That is what comes just to be done in Rennes (Brittany), where the > "Communauté d'Agglomération Rennes-Métropole" recently proposed data in GTFS > format (http://www.nosdonnees.fr/package/donnees-transport-rennes-metropole). > > The times they are a-Changin', even in France ! > Cordialement. > Jacques LysOpenStreetMap Contributor IT Manager in a French Transit Agency > > _______________________________________________ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
