Shaun it's simply not that clear cut, there are plenty of people in the US who 
would never have gotten involved without TIGER. I met one yesterday and it was 
the first thing he said.


On Dec 4, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Shaun McDonald wrote:

> Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to import 
> loads of data?
> 
> Please take a read of 
> http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2009/11/10/the-pottery-club/
> 
> Please go out and map what's out on the ground, as usually imported data is 
> of a rather low standard or the import isn't done right, and it's really, 
> really hard to do an import correctly.
> 
> 
> On 5 Dec 2009, at 00:00, Scott Atwood wrote:
> 
>> The Hawaii state government has a sizable repository of GIS data that could 
>> be useful to import into OSM:  http://hawaii.gov/dbedt/gis/.  I have 
>> contacted a manager in the GIS department by telephone and verified that 
>> this GIS data is in the public domain, and therefore available for import 
>> into OSM.
>> 
>> Hawaii has pretty good road coverage from a import of 2007 TIGER data on 
>> O'ahu, and an ongoing import of 2009 TIGER data for the remaining islands, 
>> so the roads data provided by the GIS department probably doesn't need to be 
>> considered.    But there is a lot of other data available that isn't 
>> currently in OSM, such as:
>> 
>>    * Streams, waterfalls, dams, and canals (Does the National Hydrography 
>> Dataset cover Hawaii?)
>>    * Coral reefs
>>    * Offshore islets
>>    * Mile markers
> 
> Not so sure these belong in OSM.
> 
>>    * Trails
>>    * Parks
>>    * Schools
> 
> Um haven't these already been imported? Not just current ones, but historic 
> ones too, and schools that opened 4 years ago aren't in there?
> 
>>    * Hotels
>>    * Assorted administrative boundaries
> 
> You'll probably find that most of these are in there already.
> 
>>    * Land use categorization.
>>    * etc.
>> 
>> There has been relatively little mapping activity in Hawaii outside of 
>> O'ahu, so these data sets are unlikely to conflict with much existing work 
>> on the neighbor islands.  More careful consideration would have to be given 
>> for data imports for O'ahu.
>> 
> 
> Do some publicity, run some mapping parties. The reason OSM has worked in 
> Germany is due to plenty of publicity.
> 
> Shaun
> 
>> I have not made any investigation into the accuracy of any of this data yet, 
>> and honestly, I'm not sure what sort of tools or techniques would be useful 
>> for evaluating the accuracy.
>> 
>> -Scott
>>  
>> 
>> -- 
>> Scott Atwood
>> 
>> The hill isn't in the way, it is the way.
>> 
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Yours &c.

Steve


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