i think i have issues with both sides of this argument:

as far as putting layer on a river, there's explicit language about
that here:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:layer

as far as Nathan's editing goes, i think Nathan needs to back off a little
and be more cooperative when local mappers have different positions from
his. this edit first, discuss later stuff is getting old. i'm really, 
really not
happy with his propensity to take advantage of other mappers reluctance
to get involved in edit wars, the result is he gets the last word in because
we don't want to be *ssh*l*s.

richard


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