> This is a concern about there being no active project to develop a route but having a route showing on OSM/OCM.
If that's the situation it seems we have a clear cut case at hand: the routes in question just aren't `proposed`. Kerry - have you reviewed the OSM data in question and tried to get in touch with the mapper(s) who created the route? A clarification on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:proposed could also be in order. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:53 AM, KerryIrons <irons54vor...@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > Greg, > > You have summarized it well. This is NOT " about having an actual > published > proposal and being concerned about it becoming widely available." This is > a > concern about there being no active project to develop a route but having a > route showing on OSM/OCM. Minh Nguyen has provided an example of how to > document a developing route being done by the Ohio DOT. This is the kind > of > communication and coordination we are seeking. > > > Kerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Troxel [mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:32 PM > To: KerryIrons > Cc: 'OpenStreetMap talk-us list' > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA > > > I think Kerry's concern is about "proposed" routes being in the OSM db (and > renders) when no such proposed routes exist. Taking a line from wikipedia > (which I realize is tricky business), we shouldn't be doing original > research in determining things, but rather documenting things that exist. > If there are signs and a published route, that's obviously a route. If an > organization that is generally viewed as having the authority to determine > a > route has published a proposal (which is stronger than 6 what-if > scenarios), > then that's fair to be in as proposed. But as I understand the situation, > a > cognizant organization has published a target corridor, not a proposed > route. > > But, this could be about having an actual published proposal and being > concerned about it becoming widely available, and stopping that doesn't fit > with OSM norms. > > I am also a little surprised about using the OSM database for "what if" > rendering. It makes sense to use OSM data as the baselayer, and the > toolchain for rendering what if, but if there isn't at least a published > plan for a route (as in "this route is in the state's 20-year plan and > we're > working on funding, but if we had money this is what we'd do right now"), > then putting various things people might want to do in the database seems > to > be very far away from verifiable and even not meeting the "accurately > describe the world" test. But perhaps I misread some of the earlier > comments. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >
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