Hi folks, Received lots more comments on list and off list- a robust discussion about data uniformity vs localism, words vs signage, the importance of rendering (be it visual or auditory), etc.
These are really interesting and important topics, but I think we're going to get bogged down if we try to address it all at once, so here's what I'm suggesting: 1. The issue raised about DC contractions is clearly one where people have strong views. I think it deserves its own discussion. So if the DC folks want to discuss DC's road expansion separately, I say go for it. It wouldn't be very hard to contract the names there based on the same TIGER tags that we used to expand them. I don't personally think that's what we should do, but I'm happy to participate in the discussion. 2. I haven't seen anyone on this list disagree with the OSM general method of expanding road identifiers (Street, Lane, Boulevard, etc.). So we can agree on that and I think move forward with the general proposal around name expansion. 3. There seems to be interest in automated edits happening on a continuing basis. I'm cautiously in favor. I think it's something that if we do, we need to do very carefully, as a community, with lots of input and community oversight. 4. I think there's some really good discussion about tagging. Utilizing short_name might be a good idea. I also like the idea sign_name tag. If you build a routing engine, you might want to show the sign name as it appears on the street, for example, which isn't always going to be how one might think it is. There will inevitably will be some odd exceptions, but that's the nature of this kind of data. By the same token, I'd really love to see us have pronunciation data associated with road names to deal with the fact that a name doesn't always get pronounced how you think it does. For example, "Houston" is pronounced one way for the city "Hew-ston" but the street in NYC is pronounced "How-ston". It'd be great if we have those exception pronunciations in OSM. So it might be interesting and worthwhile to explore some of these ideas on a new thread. In a moment of over-sharing, I'm probably going to postpone any work on this for a few weeks. It turns out that a surgery I had needs to be re-done, so that's happening Friday- I'll be out for another seven to ten days after that in recovery. Sadly that's on top of the ~3 weeks of recovery I've just come out of, so my schedule is very backed up. There's nothing in this discussion which strikes me as time critical, so I see it as more time to discuss and contemplate. - Serge _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
