Mar 22, 2019, 3:22 PM by m...@rtijn.org: >> On Mar 22, 2019, at 4:08 AM, Mark Wagner <>> mark+...@carnildo.com >> <mailto:mark+...@carnildo.com>>> > wrote: >> >> On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:23:48 -0600 >> Martijn van Exel <>> m...@rtijn.org <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>>> > wrote: >> >>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Mark Wagner <>>>> mark+...@carnildo.com >>>> <mailto:mark+...@carnildo.com>>>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:46:59 -0600 >>>> Martijn van Exel <>>>> m...@rtijn.org <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>>>>> >>>> <mailto:>>>> m...@rtijn.org <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>>>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Mateusz Konieczny >>>>>> <>>>>>> matkoni...@tutanota.com <mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>>>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I plan to run an automated edit that will revert part of the GNIS >>>>>> import that added them and delete objects that never had any >>>>>> reason to appear in the OSM database in any form, at least >>>>>> according to GNIS data. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please comment no matter what you think about this idea! I will >>>>>> not make the edit without a clear support so please comment if >>>>>> you think that it is a good idea and if you think that it should >>>>>> not be done. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for bringing the idea up. It actually did come up fairly >>>>> recently on Slack >>>>> https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1550176430103000 >>>>> <https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1550176430103000>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My view is that we would be missing an opportunity to have mappers >>>>> review these locations and update the areas concerned. These nodes >>>>> exist mostly in ‘undermapped' / remote areas that could use some >>>>> human mapper attention. So I’d be in favor of trying to resolve >>>>> this using some human driven cleanup first. >>>>> >>>> >>>> My experience is that this will mostly just make things worse. >>>> >>>> There was a MapRoulette task a while back for cleaning up >>>> unmodified GNIS-imported schools. There were only a few of them >>>> left around me, but the most common result was that an armchair >>>> mapper would drag the node to a nearby non-house-looking building, >>>> trace the building, and merge it with the imported node. Not one >>>> of these was actually a school. >>>> >>> >>> Do you think this could have been prevented had there been better >>> instructions? >>> >> >> No, I don't. Sorting out which GNIS nodes are outdated and which are >> merely misplaced isn't something that can reliably be done from aerial >> imagery. For something like "(historical)" GNIS nodes, it's better >> just to delete all of them. >> > > Short of messaging individual mappers, do you see a way in which MapRoulette > could be a ‘better citizen’? > I’m thinking perhaps a way to ‘report’ challenges. (Not sure how that would > work though.) > Is there way to mark challenge as for armchair users/requiring local survey? And show from the second group only when explicitly required? I remember that on my attempt to use MapRoulette many were not doable without local survey.
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