I’m really opposed to this idea of scaring people away from editing objects with the “data freshness” boogie man argument. If someone really cares about freshness, the entire history of an object is available to you.
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:57 PM Kevin Broderick <k...@kevinbroderick.com> wrote: > I'm of mixed feelings on the apparent freshness, but as long as the > guidelines are followed so changesets are of reasonable size and easily > identified as scripted, I don't see much of an issue. > > While having an automated script make assumptions caused me to twitch a > little, the reality is that a human is going to make the same assumption. > If I see a seven-digit number on a sign and want to dial it, I'm going to > assume that the area code is 207; if I'm across the state line in New > Hampshire, I'm going to assume 603. If that assumption isn't correct, the > source data is bad anyhow, and adding the implicit area code isn't making > it substantially worse. Have you been able to discern how many seven-digit > numbers are in the system? > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 2:56 PM Jmapb <jm...@gmx.com> wrote: > >> On 8/8/2019 1:28 PM, Alex Hennings wrote: >> > Community, >> > >> > I'm planning a scripted change and would like feedback. Plans are >> > outlined here: >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/blackboxlogic >> > >> > I'd appreciate feedback or questions in the 'Discussion' portion of >> > that wiki page, or within this email list. >> >> Hi Alex! >> >> First, a possible typo: I think "Nodes, Ways and References" should be >> "Nodes, Ways and Relations"? >> >> I'm a fan of the +1-xxx-xxx-xxxx format, since it's the only standard >> format that's visually intuitive to North American users. I often switch >> numbers to this format when I make updates to an existing POI. >> >> Personally, though, I've always felt a little uneasy about automated >> updates like this because they give a false impression of the freshness >> of the data. If it's been five years since any "real" updates to a POI, >> I'd rather that the date of last update reflected that. It's hard to >> gauge the community consensus on this issue, but IMO running this on >> POIs that have been manually updated (ie not by a mass edit) in the last >> 6 months would be fine. >> >> Regarding the single area code question... now that cell phones, VOIP, >> and nationwide calling plans are ubiquitous, the idea that a certain >> area code refers to a certain area is steadily eroding. I have started >> to see a few businesses with out-of-state phone numbers on their >> signs... but at this point it's still more likely that an out-of-state >> area code is an error or SEO spam. I'd suggest that these would go into >> your "Manually review or flag" category. >> >> Regardless, the idea that an area can have a single "traditional" area >> code is still true. Personally I have no problem with prepending the >> traditional area code onto 7-digit phone numbers. (I do it all the time >> in manual mapping.) >> >> Finally, thanks for posting your tools... I see these are written in >> CSharp, which I'm only tangentially familiar with. What sort of >> environment would one need to build these? >> >> Thanks, Jason >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > > > -- > Kevin Broderick > k...@kevinbroderick.com > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >
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