On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:05 PM Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't have any local knowledge about old route 66 in OK, but I'd
> like to address the use of highway=trunk in general.
>
> I'm in favor of using a secondary tags like motorroad=yes and
> expressway=yes, along with other details like lanes=, surface=,
> maxspeed=, etc, to specify expressways, rather than using
> highway=trunk for this.
>

Ideally I'd prefer we started using tags that actually reflect what people
call things in this country and have a lookup table on the wiki someplace
for national equivalence, ie, highway=expressway, highway=freeway, etc,
since the US tends to have more levels and nuance than the relatively easy
"A/B/C/M/U" grading the British have officially that carries over there.
We don't really have motorroad as a well defined thing here, either, even
about 3/5ths of the states allow pedestrians and bicycles on most
freeways.  Using trunks for expressways does give a pretty well defined
expectation of what you're going to be experiencing as it's used now.

Like the distinctions between primary/secondary/tertiary, trunk was
> originally intended to describe the role of a road in the network.
> While most trunk highways are divided and have more than 1 lane in
> each direction in densely-populated areas, it's quite normal for to
> have narrower roads as the main route between 2 cities, in
> sparsely-populated parts of the country.
>

Well, literally the official designation of the highway, before the project
jumped outside the UK.


> For example, US Hwy 101 is the main route connecting the cities (e.g.
> Eureka) and towns along the coast of northern California. Right now
> only some segments are tagged as highway=trunk. I would like to
> upgrade all of it to highway=trunk, up to Hwy 199, where most traffic
> leaves 101 and heads to I-5, at Crescent City.
>

I'm not sure that's really worth revisiting so much; seems for the US as we
have it now.  NE2 nationally torque-tagged everything in network=US:US as
trunk and that seems to have broken the already established trunk.


> The segments that are divided and wider can be tagged expressway=yes,
> lanes=4, maxspeed=, etc, so if people want to render these differently
> they can (routers are probably more interested in the number of
> intersections, traffic signals, lanes, maxspeed, and surface, so the
> expressway=* tag isn't really needed).
>

I think it'd honestly be easier to get everyone to agree that it's time for
lanes=* to include all lanes, not just lanes of a minimum width accessible
to a pretty narrow selection of vehicles than redefine highway=trunk in
North America at this point.  Certainly a lot less subjective.
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