On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:05 PM Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't have any local knowledge about old route 66 in OK, but I'd > like to address the use of highway=trunk in general. > > I'm in favor of using a secondary tags like motorroad=yes and > expressway=yes, along with other details like lanes=, surface=, > maxspeed=, etc, to specify expressways, rather than using > highway=trunk for this. > Ideally I'd prefer we started using tags that actually reflect what people call things in this country and have a lookup table on the wiki someplace for national equivalence, ie, highway=expressway, highway=freeway, etc, since the US tends to have more levels and nuance than the relatively easy "A/B/C/M/U" grading the British have officially that carries over there. We don't really have motorroad as a well defined thing here, either, even about 3/5ths of the states allow pedestrians and bicycles on most freeways. Using trunks for expressways does give a pretty well defined expectation of what you're going to be experiencing as it's used now. Like the distinctions between primary/secondary/tertiary, trunk was > originally intended to describe the role of a road in the network. > While most trunk highways are divided and have more than 1 lane in > each direction in densely-populated areas, it's quite normal for to > have narrower roads as the main route between 2 cities, in > sparsely-populated parts of the country. > Well, literally the official designation of the highway, before the project jumped outside the UK. > For example, US Hwy 101 is the main route connecting the cities (e.g. > Eureka) and towns along the coast of northern California. Right now > only some segments are tagged as highway=trunk. I would like to > upgrade all of it to highway=trunk, up to Hwy 199, where most traffic > leaves 101 and heads to I-5, at Crescent City. > I'm not sure that's really worth revisiting so much; seems for the US as we have it now. NE2 nationally torque-tagged everything in network=US:US as trunk and that seems to have broken the already established trunk. > The segments that are divided and wider can be tagged expressway=yes, > lanes=4, maxspeed=, etc, so if people want to render these differently > they can (routers are probably more interested in the number of > intersections, traffic signals, lanes, maxspeed, and surface, so the > expressway=* tag isn't really needed). > I think it'd honestly be easier to get everyone to agree that it's time for lanes=* to include all lanes, not just lanes of a minimum width accessible to a pretty narrow selection of vehicles than redefine highway=trunk in North America at this point. Certainly a lot less subjective.
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