On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:52 AM Bradley White <theangrytom...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>  If you drive into a checkerboard
>> area of private/public land, there are no Forest Service signs at the
>> limits of private land.
>>
>
> In my neck of the woods, USFS owned land is signed fairly frequently with
> small yellow property markers at the boundaries.
>

In repeated discussions about the large government-owned mixed-public-use
land areas in the US, people have argued repeatedly that the boundaries are
unverifiable.  We've shown references like
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/gwj/specialplaces/?cid=stelprdb5276999
indicating
that the boundaries are indeed marked, and how they are marked.

Note that that reference distinguishes the proclaimed boundary - the large
region in which the Congress has authorized the National Forest to exist -
from the actual forest land.

Maps commonly show proclaimed national forest boundaries. However, all land
> within these boundaries is not national forest land; some is privately
> owned. The user is cautioned to comply with state law and owner's rules
> when entering onto private land.


This has failed to satisfy. The same individuals continue to contend, each
time the topic comes around, that the boundaries are unverifiable, and to
cling to that contention in the face of this evidence. In a previous round,
one of the people actually advanced the argument that only each individual
sign, blaze, stake or cairn is verifiable, and that the line that they mark
is not verifiable and ought not to be mapped.

This behaviour convinced me long ago that there is a certain contingent
here, almost entirely comprising people who've never set foot in a National
Forest, who ardently wish to keep US National Forests and similar lands
(e.g., the zoo of New York State public-access areas, the Pennsylvania
State Game Lands, and even our State Parks) off the map, for reasons that
don't touch on verifiability, but throw verifiability into the pot in an
effort to make a stronger case.
-- 
73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin
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