I just wanted to hop in and say I couldn't agree more.
Cake may have some documentation issues, but it was still easier to set
up than Rails, Symphony, or any of the other frameworks I've
experimented with in the past. I'll continue to use it for as long as it
makes my job easier and faster.
Jon Baer wrote:
I think that people coming from procedural PHP tend to have a harder
time getting into MVC styled programming. Especially if a complete
framework is the very next thing they look @ without OO programing. If
you have gone from Java to JSP to Struts to PHP and onto Cake (and
probably @ least checking out what that Ruby on Rails thing is about)
you tend to appreciate it more. I agree you need to set aside @ least a
good day for each part of MVC to understand what you are getting into,
but when something breaks or you have to debug it won't take long to
find. Nearly every rant I've seen is mainly due to complete
disagreement with the conventions used or is just a complete bikeshed
issue :-)
- Jon
On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:12 AM, Marcin Szkudlarek wrote:
I think that for every framework you need some time to learn it. After
that time you're able to get the benefits of using it. I spent few
days learning cake (no problems with installation). Usually when I
didn't understand how particular part works I just looked into the
code.. it's the way I recommend for people struggling with Cake. What
I mean in general is that you'll appreciate the benefits of using Cake
after you'll learn at least at the basic level.
Regards,
Marcin
On 08/01/07, Nate Abele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some get a kick from cocaine. I'm sure that if I took even one
sniff, it
would bore me terrifically, too.
Yet, I get a kick out of you.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:08:41 +0800
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [nyphp-talk] CAKE Ain't Soup!
To: [email protected]
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In defense of Brian Daley's rant about CAKE and contrary to Nate Abele's
illness,
I believe Brian's point are well founded and justified completely.
As a complete CAKE novice, I knew/know nothing about Cake except the
misinformation that
is contained on their home page, i.e *"No Configuration* - Set-up the
database and watch the magic begin".
So I decided to check it out to see for myself what all the hype was
about
so
after wading through a miriad of "give us money" I finally was able to
download the
package and attempted to install it on my local Apache Webserver.
Give that
the installation
instruction are clear as mud, I attempted to install it like any
other PHP
Application
but when I attempted to run it, I get a "Your database configuration
file
is not present."
and a screenful of junk that tells me nothing about how to install the
product, except an instruction
that says, "run the install" but never says what that is. Installation
instructions, never mind documentation,
are suppose to be specific, precise and correct. Cake is none of the
above.
Cake may be cake but it is certainly not soup!
Cake may be indeed a great leap forward but if you can not install it
"out
of the box" no one will ever know.
I, personally, don't "shop around" for information that isn't where
it is
"suppose" to be. That means that
Cake only had one shot to impress me, they did, negatively! All the
whining
on the planet won't fix
an installation process that is fatally flawed.
regards, mikesz
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