I agree with kc,  I think its pretty interesting how all these people that
are into rails act like MVC and ORM where invented there.  I too have worked
with Struts, Hibernate and other J2EE tools but I realize that MVC was not
invented there either.  MVC and other design patterns are just that, Design
Patterns, they can be implemented in a number of development environments.

Tom ONeill


> But that's not exclusive to Rails... I think being versed in multiple
> languages causes this inherently.  I came to PHP from a long history
> with Java and Struts, so I tend to approach things in an OO-manner
> with a heavy focus on Unit Testing and MVC.
>
> Stealing... er.. sharing good ideas and lessons learned only helps.
>
> kc
>
>
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