Industry certifications are all well and good but state-certified professional licenses would be a huge step forward.
Just think how cool it would be to have a "NYS Licensed Code Jockey" certificate in a huge frame on your office wall :) Not to mention the economic & lobbying power that state professional organizations have. > This is quite a strong summation. > > Yet, fortunately, there is some types of accreditation for some > programming and related categories. There is Microsoft MSCE, Cisco > Certified, general network certifications, Oracle cert, Red Hat cert, > security cert, Zend PHP cert, even a Flash cert. > > So, maybe if firms and sites (PHP.net and all such related sites) > started advocating cert programs as one of, if not the first serious > step, toward an evolving measurable genuine industry competency and > competitiveness that would help programmers more effectively work > towards and achieve known knowledge levels that might have nationally > known pay scales. > > Then a programmer could plan a career and salary objectives a little > more logically. And businesses could budget and allocate programmer > workforce more exactly. > > Somewhere, something is all good and better than the existing free for > all. > > Warmest regards, > > Peter Sawczynec > Technology Dir. > Sun-code Interactive > Sun-code.com > 646.316.3678 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Urb LeJeune > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:28 AM > To: NYPHP Talk > Subject: Re: [nyphp-talk] Re: OT: webmaster test > > > >> By definition, programming and website design is not a > >>profession. > > > >Really? What specifically is that definition? > > profession: "An occupation, such as law, medicine, or engineering, > that requires considerable training > and specialized study" > > Houghton Mifflin Dictionary. > > Even an engineer must have a professional engineering (PE) > designation to perform certain types of design. > I don't have a problem with a self taught programmers, I've known > some great ones, however, a field having > a large number of practitioners without formal training is a trade > not a profession. A profession is also > self-regulated. > > It's another thread but, should there be certification available for > programmers and web designers? If we > ever want to be considered a profession, that's the first step. I was > in the stock brokerage business when > the designation Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) first came into > being. It was extraordinarily difficult > and it took almost two years after the announcement before the first > designation were awarded. It required > two 8 hour day testing sessions. It made a huge difference in the > industry and these days you will not get > a senior level job in a research department without a CFA. Same thing > happened with Chartered Financial > Planner (CFP). > > I'm unsure of the procedure, but how/when does one change the subject > when we have drifted into a new > area? > > > Urb > > Dr. Urban A. LeJeune, President > E-Government.com > 609-294-0320 800-204-9545 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > E-Government.com lowers you costs while increasing your expectations. > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
