I don't know that UAC is any good. I have never disabled my UAC, but this
computer has been infected anyway. Pam.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 12:29 PM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: casperski antivirus
Well ... one point about MSE is that it doesn't really even try to pretend
it's in the same league of "the big boys", it's just a whole lot better than
nothing. MS knows this and tries to suggest you also install more
anti-malware.
Something else we all should be doing is to make sure UAC is enabled. I
don't find it too difficult to confirm I want a program to run now and
again, and it may save you from a virus being able to install itself.
Chip
Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314
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Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 9:44 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: casperski antivirus
David,
First, I am sorry to hear that you had to deal with an infection. Did you
ever get any idea where you picked it up?
I have struggled with the question of accessibility versus ratings and would
be curious to here your thoughts on a couple if issues. First, I wonder if
not being able to adequately interact with a highly rated package isn't
going to reduce its effectiveness. If I can't use the interface, am I going
to set up the options in a way that is most effective? If I can't read a
warning message when a virus is encountered, am I going to make the right
choice? I don't know if the above would apply to Casperski and not saying
that it does, the question is meant to be generic.
I've also read that ratings of virus checkers need to be considered
carefully because enough is known about testing that virus checkers can
tailor their protection to do well without it necessarily meaning much in
terms of broad protection. Again, I am not saying Casperski does this,
because I do not know that is the case. However, the whole state of viruses
and virus checkers is so variable that I am not convinced one can pick a
highly rated checker and know with any certainty that it is highly rated
today as it was when the last tests came out. I can control to some extent
whether I can pick a virus checker that I can use comfortably. Therefore, I
don't know if the choice of accessibility versus effectiveness is truly as
obvious as you describe it. Having said that, Casperski is common enough
that I am glad you are dialogging with them. It would be nice if it were
more accessible, and I, for one, would be very interested to hear what you
hear from them and which areas you find to be useable and which you do not.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 2:25 PM
To: Brice Mijares; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: casperski antivirus
I have never used Kaspersky with Window-Eyes. However, it may offer some
degree of accessibility and it is the antimalware program I chose to use
as of a few months ago, after Microsoft Security Essentials failed to
protect me against a rather crippling virus. I use it because it is one
of the top-rated antivirus packages on the market and I refuse to
compromise my computer's security in the name of accessibility.
I am, as some people may know, extremely passionate and a bit militant
about this issue and I apologize if I come off too strong about this.
However, blind people need to consider that we need to use the security
software which is highly-rated, rather than choosing the package that
works best with a screen reader but which may not offer an acceptable
level of protection. I am trying to dialog with Kaspersky regarding
these issues and I plan to continue to do so until accessibility is
improved. I would like to strongly urge all of you to do the same. If
one person contacts a company, they may be less inclined to act. If many
of us contact them with the same concerns, particularly if we're paying
customers, perhaps we'll get results which will be more favorable to us.
So many of us, myself included, find it easier to choose a security
program because it works best with whatever screen reader we happen to
be using. When it comes to the security of my computer, that is no
longer acceptable to me. For years, I relied upon MSE because it was
speech-friendly. I'm also an extremely cautious, responsible and
security-conscious user but these traits are no longer enough to keep
you safe. I now insist on using security software which is highly-rated,
meaning that it gets excellent scores with independent lab tests. If
it's not accessible, I am willing to engage in constructive dialog with
the company and I will go to incredible lengths to do this but, in the
end my goal is to make it accessible.
On 8/6/2015 2:45 PM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
Not at all! My notebook running 8.1 came with it and after upgrading
yesterday to windows 10 I was glad to see it was gone.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey via Talk"
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Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:33 AM
Subject: casperski antivirus
Hi just wondering is casperski antivirus useable with window-eyes?
Last I heard it wasn't but just wondering if things changed or not in
that regard.
--
Casey
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