Actually, the only communities that are legally discriminated against the communities that have people who are disabled. You actually think, that Microsoft cares about accessibility? Narrator didn't even become anything usable until Windows 8. It will never be up to the standards of a Window-Eyes, or even NVDA, because Microsoft absolutely does not want to do anything. Apple on the other hand, has at least implemented a fully featured screen reader and, on every device they create or ship, that screen reader is available. Voiceover far out does anything that Microsoft word called accessible. It is only because of companies like AI squared, that we even have an accessible experience on windows.
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:11 PM, net bat via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > wrote: > > if you think apple , microsoft and other companies are comitted to > accessibility think again. they caved in because of all the law suits from > blind organisations and presher by the same organisations on the polatitions > to pass laws to force accessibility on these companies. few are doing this > out of the goodness of there hearts. if they don't comply they could be > forced out of buisness. > which will not happen because the polititions are in the back pocket of these > companies. > > -----Original Message----- From: Peter Duran via Talk > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 2:19 AM > To: Talk > Subject: Accessibility: A Reality Check > > What's this "second class" citizen nonsense? What's this "poor me" attitude? > I don't get it! > > The basic fact is: A major release of a product always has problems because > of the sheer complexity of the product. That's the way it is so get over > it! It has nothing to do with accessibility or the lack of. It has nothing > to do with economic status, race, religion, sexual orientation, or the > weather! > > No doubt, there are hundreds of things about Windows 10 that are bugging > millions of sighted users at present; get over it; get real; stop whining! > They will get fixed; just wait for the next release if you are so unhappy. > > Both Apple and Microsoft are committed to accessibility for their products; > it's good business; it's the federal law! The W3C Consortium sets > accessibility standards worldwide, and the big companies try to meet them > and keep up. Complexity is the "enemy" not Apple, Microsoft, Google, and so > on. > > The problem: The more folks have, the more they want. Back when I was a > college student, I relied on the technology at the time, books recorded on > cassettes. I had to rewind tapes over and over again to find the stuff I > needed to read for class the next day, a laborious process indeed. Now, I > perform similar tasks, but with an accessible computer using search > commands, and get annoyed when a search takes more than a few seconds. Go > figure! > > Google surveys show that users get frustrated if Google searches take more > than 10 seconds; sighted people whine too when frustrated. > > Every time GW Micro releases a major upgrade, this list becomes a "whine > list" which makes me need a gin and tonic. I can't wait for the fixes to > Windows 10; thereafter, amazing accessibility will be available on a > multitude of devices: computers, tablets, smart phones, and who knows what > else. And the great thing, Microsoft will have a single user interface > across devices so I will need to learn only one set of commands to work with > them all. > > Someone on this list just complained about the "ribbon bar" now in some more > Windows apps; well, Microsoft is trying to unify its user interface and thus > simplify the user experience. Yeah, people don't like to change; my sighted > wife hates Word 2013 because she doesn't know how to use the ribbon bar, and > she refuses to read my tutorial about it. That's her problem, not > Microsoft's! > > Peter Duran > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgbowles%40msn.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
