Davy, Keep in mind that we all come from different situations, and use computers for different reasons. Many of us work full time, and have lives that do not necessarily involve the computer, i. e. home life, raising children, etc. For many folks, the computer is a kind of tool, and we learn the aspects that allow us to do the job that we use it for. Others have plenty of time and interest, and want to learn as much about their gear as possible.
As for me, my work situation demands that I use JAWS because we depend heavily on proprietary software applications that require custom scripting. It may indeed be possible to script WE to work with these systems, but that isn't the direction in which my employer has gone. I do have WE on my PC at home, but because it has become a kind of secondary screen reader, I have not kep up with all of the ways that it has advanced over the years. Andy -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Davy Cuppens via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:29 AM To: Marc Solomon; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Introducing Virtual View 5.0 Maybe i Understand some critics but Aaron is in my opinion right and had stated the things in an understandable way. I would just say the opposite here. I find it a bit a pitty seeing how few people have at least intermediate notice of their screenreader at all. In the reactions one could conclude that many people here don't even have notice that windoweyes is shipped with many apps that besides the user interface of the screenreader, are built to ease the work of so many third part programs running on a computer. Like my distributor always says in a joking way, please read at least one time the f*cking manual of the programs you buy or get. Maybe we should all do this a bit more and that could lead to a better knowledge and less own frustrations. Again great work Aisquared. Regards Davy -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 4:51 PM To: gosselin_louis ; Window-Eyes DiscussionList ; libertyroundta...@gmail.com ; 'Bud Schwab' ; 'RossMcGregor' Subject: RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0 Hi Louis, In Aaron's defense, he is a developer, not a trainer or an instructional designer. So, we should try to appreciate the work he has done and help him improve VirtualView so it is as good as it can be. Constructive criticism and feedback is always welcomed. If Ai Squared had unlimited time and resources, he would have been able to delegate the announcement to someone like me who could have tried to present the information differently and from the perspective of a novice user. With all that said, I really like your suggestion. As time permits, I will try to develop either a step by step tutorial or a webinar to cover VirtualView in more detail. Thanks for your patience and understanding. Regards, Marc -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of gosselin_louis via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:06 AM To: libertyroundta...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Bud Schwab' <budsch...@verizon.net>; 'Ross McGregor' <ross...@hotkey.net.au> Subject: RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0 Well, How to start the thing going was exactly one of the missing pieces in Aaron's announcement. But also, We need to know under what circumstances should we find that we would need Virtual View, and what prep would we need to set up the image, or the situation, or whatever, before invoking Virtual View. And, can we save the results, or edit and save the results? In short, I think we need a good demo, [Mark] with more than one or two examples, a good Webinar, perhaps two! Louis Gosselin -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint....@lists.window-eyes.co m] On Behalf Of Sam Bushman via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 6:36 PM To: 'Bud Schwab' <budsch...@verizon.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Ross McGregor' <ross...@hotkey.net.au> Subject: RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0 Hi All, Maybe this will help. As you know window eyes has free apps that you can install and run with we. They do all kinds of things like help get access to many windows programs, help access all kinds of things etc. Example: You can check the weather, you can get better access to outlook the Microsoft email program and more. Well, virtual view another free wineyes app has been upgraded with some of the most useful features you could imagine. So, use the free app called app get and either get or update your virtual view app. Then try out the new features Aaron and others are mentioning below. Example: I just pressed ctrl-alt-v and launched the virtual view app. I then was able to tab through the apps settings/features. I cut and pasted a pdf file in to the Virtual View window and wow it did OCR on the file and I could read just the text. This is way cool, check it out and rely on your friends / users on this list to learn more and get answers. Hope this helps. Thanks, Sam -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+libertyroundtable=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bud Schwab via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 4:30 PM To: Ross McGregor <ross...@hotkey.net.au>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Introducing Virtual View 5.0 Very well put. I agree 100 percent as a guy who knows very little about this whole thing. BudAt 03:17 PM 11/4/2015, you wrote: >Hi Aaron, > >Yes virtual view sounds like a very good tool. > >But I'd like to point out that computer programmers, software writers and >general computer geeks or nerds, always write with a lot of assumed >knowledge. They just assume all folks know what they know. And of >course we don't. > >Case in point is your email. You mentioned virtual view. But didn't say >what is it, where do we get it, and what is the cost if any. You just assumed. > >So please could geeks and nerds and others, realise that many of us aren't >buried head first in to a computer all day and every day. It's just a tool >we use, to live our lives. > >This comment can be applied to 99 per cent of geeks and nerds. So >please could the we squared staff, remember to write from the users's >point of view when communicating? > > >Just a friendly tip. >All the best, > >Ross. > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Talk >[mailto:talk-bounces+rossmcg=hotkey.net...@lists.window-eyes.com] >On Behalf Of Aaron Smith via Talk >Sent: Thursday, 5 November 2015 7:34 AM >To: t...@window-eyes.com >Subject: Introducing Virtual View 5.0 > >Virtual View 5.0 now supports exciting new features such as the ability >to OCR images from files or the screen, plus virtualizing various >document formats, including PDF files. Here are some other features: > >* You can open an image in any format (jpg, bmp, png, tiff, >etc.). >* If you press Alt-Print Screen to capture the active window, >Virtual View will automatically OCR it for you. >* The Virtual View options dialog lets you control image >manipulation to increase OCR success. >* Supports UAC, allowing you to get contents (specifically UIA) >from windows that are elevated. > >* Images inside PDF files are prepended with [BEGIN >IMAGE] and appended with [END IMAGE]. >* You can choose several different kinds of file formats to >virtualize, including: > >* Txt > >* Html > >* Xml > >* Zip > >* And if you have Office installed: > >? Docx > >? Xlsx > >? Pptx > >Imagine a Word document filled with text boxes and word art. That >information will show up as plain text when passed through Virtual View. >Spreadsheets and PowerPoint presentations are the same way. If you want >to quickly skim a PowerPoint presentation without opening PowerPoint, >use Virtual View. > >With zip files, Virtual View can open the zip file and get the text of >all text files. At the very least, you can get a list of the files in >the archive. > >-- >Aaron Smith >Web Development * App Development * Product Support Specialist Ai >Squared * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825 >260-489-3671 * www.aisquared.com > >To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past >correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information >pertinent to your situation when submitting a problem report to the Ai >Squared Technical Support Team. > >_______________________________________________ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >For membership options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rossmcg%4 >0hotk >ey.net.au. >For subscription options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >List archives can be found at >http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >_______________________________________________ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >For membership options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/budschwab %40v erizon.net. >For subscription options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >List archives can be found at >http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com Bud Schwab W 6 Z Y P El Segundo, California _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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