Hello all, can anyone direct me to a tutorial about Window Eyes and Windows 7. I have a friend who is finally coming up to Windows 7 from XP. Now back to regular program still in progress. Andrew
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+edrew=cox....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:32 PM To: Larry Higgins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key I haven't copied sentences or groups of words with f8, but I have copied urls and the whole url is copied. I do f8 twice and hit enter. Pam. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 3:14 PM To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Chris Grabowski' Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key Chris, As I think I have made quite clear in my previous posts to Rod, I have no problem doing what is necessary to assure that I have indeed selected an entire word unit using f8, that is moving from the first letter of the word to the last character and once again pressing f8. I will take f8 on its own turns. But It is been proven to me by my own hand that in text editors or word processors, that using ctrl-right or left arrow, while maybe appearing to only select or unselect the first letter, actually select the entire word, and that can be proven simply by copying what has been selected and placing it at the end of the document, and taking a look at your work. Again, technically, you may indeed be right, but for all intents and purposes, the entire word unit is selected. I am not demanding a change when it comes to f8, all though I really would find it more convenient to be able to by default, select an entire word unit, rather than just the first letter, because that is usually what is meant by using the ctrl-shift arrow keys when editing as normally excepted standard procedure. As I've indicated, this isn't the proverbial show-stopper, just a relatively minor irritation. Indeed, if most users of this method have no problem with the present state of affairs, I am willing to concede my minority status and get on with the rest of my life <smile>. Have a great day, and keep up your great work, Larry On 7/18/2016 8:43 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Yes, your point is well made and taken, and yet Larry's point is that > with the normal selection method accomplished using Shift and the > arrow keys, words are selected as one navigates to them. > Personally, I've come to develop some memory cues in order to remind > myself what I'm doing and in which context. > It's still easy to get confused, though. smile > > Best, > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:43 AM > To: Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion > List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Subject: RE: selecting text and f8 key > > This is standard behavior when using control-left and control-right in > any text editor. > Your cursor lands on the first character of the word. > When you use f8 you are placing a marker where your cursor is. > Pressing > f8 > the second time places the second marker where your cursor is. If it > is in the beginning of the word or middle it selects between the two > points. > > Chris > > > > > Ai Squared Support > Ai Squared > 725 Airport North Office Park > Fort Wayne, IN 46825 > (802) 362-3612 > www.aisquared.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared....@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:33 AM > To: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion > List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key > > Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up > coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after > I used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words. > > "After a two-week absence, I'm back with my top Shelf Oldies s." > > That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing > without holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but > not when using the ctrl key. > > As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an inconvenience. > I > can live with it, just wish I didn't have too <smile>. > > On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: >> > I have never heard of f8 working like that. It selects the whole >> > thing for me. Pam. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk >> > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM >> > To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> > Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key >> > >> > Robert, going to the end of a word or line indeed works, however, >> > normally when making a word selection in practically any editing >> > program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow >> > keys you are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 >> > method, you will only be selecting the first character of the word. >> > If I am alone in this experience, I would surely like to get to the >> > bottom of why. >> > Anyway, that is the way f8 has always worked for me. >> > >> > On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: >>> >> 'It doesn't work that way for me. >>> >> >>> >> I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then >>> >> an >>> >> F8 on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then >>> >> a C. >>> >> >>> >> Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V. >>> >> >>> >> -Bob Ringwald >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk >>> >> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM >>> >> To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb' >>> >> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key >>> >> >>> >> I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 >>> >> method in brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight >>> >> words, that on the last desired word, that you must at that point >>> >> highlight each individual character up to the end, because you >>> >> will only get the first character on that last word. Just a quirk >>> >> of the F8 way of doing things, but a fact/quirk nevertheless., >>> >> >>> >> Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for >>> >> selecting to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if >>> >> you wish to lift only a word or two, this could get to be rather >>> >> frustrating until you figure it out. I mean, it just isn't >>> >> supposed to > work that way. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote: >>>> >>> Ok, thanks, got it. >>>> >>> Don >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those >>>> >>> of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> For membership options, visit >>>> >>> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhig > gins22 > %40comcast.net. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>>> >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> >>> List archives can be found at >>>> >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> >> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >> >>> >> For membership options, visit >>> >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald. > com. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> For subscription options, visit >>> >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> List archives can be found at >>> >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> >> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >> >>> >> For membership options, visit >>> >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhig > gins22 > %40comcast.net. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> For subscription options, visit >>> >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> List archives can be found at >>> >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >> > the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> > >> > For membership options, visit >> > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%4 > 0opton > line.net. >> > >> > For subscription options, visit >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > List archives can be found at >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > No virus found in this message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 2016.0.7688 / Virus Database: 4627/12620 - Release Date: >> > 07/15/16 >> > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabows > ki%40a > isquared.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutt > on%40h > otmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22 %40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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