I bought ProTalk for my Apple IIe, and was very pleased with it. I did try ProTerm from Larry Skutchan (MicroTalk), but, it did not perform the way I wanted in certain situations. ProTalk, written by Doug Geofrey was what I stuck with. /
Conversely, on the PC side, I used ASAP for DOS, but, almost exclusively Window-Eyes, from 1999 onward. Wow! Almost 17 years have passed since I started using Window-Eyes. I've still got my Window-Eyes 3.1 disc, now an ISO in OneDrive, just in case I need it. Doubt if I ever will, but, I hate to throw anything away. It survived a house fire, since I had it stored in a bank safe-deposit box at the time. Anyway, I've had lots of computer fun, and, did not have to use the shark to do it. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 2:09 PM To: Lloyd Rasmussen <l...@sprynet.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: history of window eyes I got my first apple 2 e in 1983 and bought programs from Bill. I don't know the exact year, but it was about that time Doug started working part time for Bill. He was still in College as I recall. I know Doug was greatly involved in developing small talk which I think came out in 1985. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Mon, 17 Oct 2016, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: > I don't have time to write a very long message, but here's a little of > the story. > In the early 1980s Bill Grimm formed a company, Computer Aids > Corporation, to create software for the Apple II family of computers. > They teamed up with Malcolm Holser to create a screen reader for DOS > called Screen-Talk, which was released in 1985, which I bought and > used. In 1986 Screen-Talk was linked with ProKey, a macro program, and > its functionality was extended. Somewhere in there, Doug Geoffray was > hired as a programmer. In 1988 Computer Aids released the Sounding > Board, an ISA-compatible speech synthesizer that used the SSI-263 > speech chip that was common in those days. Dan Wyrick did major work on that project. Near that time Bill Grimm died. > Dan and Doug put together a new company, GW Micro and marketed the > new-generation DOS screen reader as Vocal-Eyes. > The first Windows 3.0 screen reader was OutSpoken, released in the > summer of 1992. Later came Automatic Screen Access for Windows and JAWS for Windows. > Window-Eyes 1.0 came out quite late, in late 1995. It worked with > Windows 3 and 3.1, even though Windows 95 was already out and had no > screen reader support from anyone at first. Window-Eyes 2 was the > first W-E version to support Windows 95, and came out in the spring of 1997, I think. > The revision history of Window-Eyes is on the GW Micro website, going > way back; it is instructive to read it to see where we have come from. > > > Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD > http://lras.home.sprynet.com > -----Original Message----- From: Drew Clark via Talk > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:56 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: history of window eyes > > hi, > > i am interested to find out the history of window eyes, who created it > and how it was started. is there any webpage/audio podcast that > interviews the g and the w behind gw micro? > > thanks > > > -- > Sent using window eyes. > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet .com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shell world.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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