Sorry, not ProTalk.  I meant to say TermTalk.

Sorry for the confusion.





-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:09 PM
To: 'Butch Bussen' <but...@shellworld.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Lloyd Rasmussen' <l...@sprynet.com>
Subject: RE: history of window eyes

I bought ProTalk for my Apple IIe, and was very pleased with it.

I did try ProTerm from Larry Skutchan (MicroTalk), but, it did not perform
the way I wanted in certain situations.  ProTalk, written by Doug Geofrey
was what I stuck with.  /       

Conversely, on the PC side, I used ASAP for DOS, but, almost exclusively
Window-Eyes, from 1999 onward.  Wow!  Almost 17 years have passed since I
started using Window-Eyes.  I've still got my Window-Eyes 3.1 disc, now an
ISO in OneDrive, just in case I need it.  Doubt if I ever will, but, I hate
to throw anything away.  It survived a house fire, since I had it stored in
a bank safe-deposit box at the time.

Anyway, I've had lots of computer fun, and, did not have to use the shark to
do it.





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To: Lloyd Rasmussen <l...@sprynet.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: history of window eyes

I got my first apple 2 e in 1983 and bought programs from Bill.  I don't
know the exact year, but it was about that time Doug started working part
time for Bill.  He was still in College as I recall.  I know Doug was
greatly involved in developing small talk which I think came out in 1985.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Mon, 17 Oct 2016, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:

> I don't have time to write a very long message, but here's a little of 
> the story.
> In the early 1980s Bill Grimm formed a company, Computer Aids 
> Corporation, to create software for the Apple II family of computers.
> They teamed up with Malcolm Holser to create a screen reader for DOS 
> called Screen-Talk, which was released in 1985, which I bought and 
> used. In 1986 Screen-Talk was linked with ProKey, a macro program, and 
> its functionality was extended. Somewhere in there, Doug Geoffray was 
> hired as a programmer. In 1988 Computer Aids released the Sounding 
> Board, an ISA-compatible speech synthesizer that used the SSI-263 
> speech chip that was common in those days. Dan Wyrick did major work 
> on
that project. Near that time Bill Grimm died.
> Dan and Doug put together a new company, GW Micro and marketed the 
> new-generation DOS screen reader as Vocal-Eyes.
> The first Windows 3.0 screen reader was OutSpoken, released in the 
> summer of 1992. Later came Automatic Screen Access for Windows and 
> JAWS
for Windows.
> Window-Eyes 1.0 came out quite late, in late 1995. It worked with 
> Windows 3 and 3.1, even though Windows 95 was already out and had no 
> screen reader support from anyone at first. Window-Eyes 2 was the 
> first W-E version to support Windows 95, and came out in the spring of
1997, I think.
> The revision history of Window-Eyes is on the GW Micro website, going 
> way back; it is instructive to read it to see where we have come from.
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -----Original Message----- From: Drew Clark via Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:56 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: history of window eyes
>
> hi,
>
> i am interested to find out the history of window eyes, who created it 
> and how it was started. is there any webpage/audio podcast that 
> interviews the g and the w behind gw micro?
>
> thanks
>
>
> --
> Sent using window eyes.
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