Hi Doug, I'm not a braille user myself, but according to the documentation for the BrailleInput app:
https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1404 it offers "Contracted braille (partial support)." All the best, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:18 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: two way contracted Braille input on Braille displays Hello Roger, Wow, it has been a long time. I was not aware of your health issues but applaud you for telling those doctors/statisticians what they can do with their odds (smile)! Window-Eyes core never allowed for contracted braille input. This is something that could be added to the individual braille drivers and I thought there was a braille manufacturer which actually took advantage of that in their Window-Eyes braille driver but I'm not certain. Because most braille drivers are developed by the braille manufacturer, I lose track of what displays are out there and how they work with Window-Eyes. I've wanted to add contracted input into Window-Eyes core but have never gotten to it. It is still on the wish list. Regards, Doug On 10/18/2016 9:46 AM, Adaptive Information Systems Inc. wrote: > Hi Doug, > > I wanted to ask you about two way entry with Braille displays and > Window-eyes 9.53. > > If my memory is correct, I thought we had contracted two way entry with > Braille displays and the BrailleNote devices with earlier versions of > Window-eyes. > > I have customers who are using Window-eyes, like TVI teachers who own a > Brailliant BI display from HumanWare and can't do contracted Braille input > from their Brailliant BI to the computer, like word or email, it is all > computer Braille only. > > I see that NVDA 2016.3 also is only doing computer Braille input too. > > While Jaws still offers contracted two way input from a Braille display. > > Is contracted two way input something that did happen years ago? > > Is this something that can be included in future releases of Window-eyes? > > It is a pain to have to type in computer Braille using a perkins style > keyboard on a Braille display. > > Thank you for your time! > > I am still alive and kicking after 2013 and doctors gave me a 1% diagnoses > that I would live and I beat that! But now I am fighting cancer of the > Prostate, Dam! > > Regards, > > Roger a. Behm, President > > > > > Adaptive Information Systems Inc. > We Make Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and Reading Disabled > > Roger A. Behm, President > 1611 Clover Lane > Janesville WI 53545-1388 > Fax: 608-758-7898 > Voice: 608-758-0933 > Email: aist...@ameritech.net > Web Page: www.adaptiveinformation.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech....@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:15 AM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Subject: Re: history of window eyes > > Just wanted to correct a few things (smile). > > Malcolm created Screen-Talk which later became Screen-Talk Pro (linked > with ProKey). As stated, he may of wanted to call this Vocal-Eyes but > Bill Grimm didn't like that name, at the time. I had nothing to do with > Screen-Talk. I did create most of the Apple 2 software such as > Braille-Out which later turned to Braille-Talk, and Word-Talk and > File-Talk and Term-Talk (prior to Term-Talk it was Talking Transend) and > several other smaller things as well as the TTS engine for all Sounding > Board variants. I also created all the software for the Small-Talk > portable computer, except for the Calc-Talk module, ah, fun times (smile). > > In 1988 I started from scratch with Vocal-Eyes. This was completely > different from the work Malcolm did. I almost finished Vocal-Eyes when > Bill Grimm got burnt out and decided to close Computer Aids, which > officially closed November 1989. I had started working at Computer Aids > in the early 80's as a contractor and around 1983 started full time as > an employee. Dan Weirich started around 1987ish and worked on the > hardware. So after Computer Aids closed in 1989, Dan and I started GW > Micro February 15, 1990. I spent another 6 or so months finalizing > Vocal-Eyes and released it right after that. As for Bill Grimm, he did > die but it was a few years later...I can't remember the exact year but > it was around 1994 or 95. > > We started working on Window-Eyes around 1994 and released 1.0 in > October 1995. > > Doug > > On 10/17/2016 2:41 PM, Dave Basden via Talk wrote: >> I might add that Malcolm, who worked as a ranger at Yosemite near >> Fresno where I lived at the time, initially called his PC screenreader >> Vocal-Eyes and I was one of the beneficiaries. He had originally >> designed it for a fellow ranger at Yosemite who was only partially >> sighted. I still see his name on the lists occasionally. Bill Grimm >> was then naming all his software releases Whatever-talk, so when >> Malcolm teamed up with Computer Aids, the program was renamed Screen >> Talk. When Doug Geoffrey took over Computer Aids, he named his screen >> reader Vocal-Eyes. Apparently Malcolm had no objection to that. >> Actually Doug wasn't even aware that the name had been used by >> Malcolm. Later GW Micro released Window-Eyes for Windows as, as you >> know, Vocal-Eyes was a DOS screen reader. >> >> Dave >> >> At 04:02 AM 10/17/2016, you wrote: >>> I don't have time to write a very long message, but here's a little >>> of the story. >>> In the early 1980s Bill Grimm formed a company, Computer Aids >>> Corporation, to create software for the Apple II family of computers. >>> They teamed up with Malcolm Holser to create a screen reader for DOS >>> called Screen-Talk, which was released in 1985, which I bought and >>> used. In 1986 Screen-Talk was linked with ProKey, a macro program, >>> and its functionality was extended. Somewhere in there, Doug Geoffray >>> was hired as a programmer. In 1988 Computer Aids released the >>> Sounding Board, an ISA-compatible speech synthesizer that used the >>> SSI-263 speech chip that was common in those days. Dan Wyrick did >>> major work on that project. Near that time Bill Grimm died. >>> Dan and Doug put together a new company, GW Micro and marketed the >>> new-generation DOS screen reader as Vocal-Eyes. >>> The first Windows 3.0 screen reader was OutSpoken, released in the >>> summer of 1992. Later came Automatic Screen Access for Windows and >>> JAWS for Windows. Window-Eyes 1.0 came out quite late, in late 1995. >>> It worked with Windows 3 and 3.1, even though Windows 95 was already >>> out and had no screen reader support from anyone at first. >>> Window-Eyes 2 was the first W-E version to support Windows 95, and >>> came out in the spring of 1997, I think. >>> The revision history of Window-Eyes is on the GW Micro website, going >>> way back; it is instructive to read it to see where we have come from. >>> >>> >>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD >>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com >>> -----Original Message----- From: Drew Clark via Talk >>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:56 AM >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Subject: history of window eyes >>> >>> hi, >>> >>> i am interested to find out the history of window eyes, who created it >>> and how it was started. is there any webpage/audio podcast that >>> interviews the g and the w behind gw micro? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent using window eyes. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet > .com. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dave%40basden. > us. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgeoffray%40ai > squared.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/aistech%40amer > itech.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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