Yep, that that requires logical thinking which isn't to common these days. If they are still selling s m a contracts, that is a little odd.
73
Butch
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

With several employees leaving AI Squared and VFO instructing dealers to no longer sell Window Eyes, that should tell you something?

-----Original Message----- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 3:10 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Dave'
Subject: Re: Future of WE

I'm not sure I understand why some here feel this urgent need to switch
to another screen reader at this moment.

On 11/26/2016 6:03 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
 Jaws 18 is out and should have a demo.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
 On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
 Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 1:51 PM
 To: A I Squared Support
 Subject: Future of WE

 I must admit, the Future of Window Eyes does look like it could be very
 limited, as in soon to be Discontinued.   But, who knows for sure.  The
 Parent Company might be slow and Cumbersome which makes them slow to do
 anything that gets back to the customers    Slow to announce new stuff,
 slow to bring out Updates, slow to Fix problems etc.

 I too am starting to use NVDA a bit more.   On my System, NVDA is just a
 touch slower, and I am still not understanding it way of reading parts of
 the screen, at least not consistently.

 email, MS Word and the Internet all seem to read well enough.  Some times
 a
 bit too much is spoken, and I am still learning how to make NVDA speak
 less.


 And to be fair, NVDA is not Free, but you can obtain it for Free, use it,
 and if you like it, then the owners and creators of NVDA would love to see
 a
 Donation come their way.  Money does motivate the continued improvement of
 their product.

 If more money had been coming into GW Micro, then A I Squared would not
 have bought GW Micro.   and this discussion would never have taken place.

 I doubt if any of us would work for Free indefinitely.   And the guys
 who have put NVDA together would not put in so much effort into NVDA if
 they
 did not receive enough to make it worth their time and energy.

 The thing about NVDA is that you can donate $50 and the guys will be
 grateful.  $50 is cheaper than $1300 for JAWS.

 NVDA doesn't do everything JAWS does, but to be honest, I do not need
 NVDA to do everything JAWS does.    Each person will need to find out if
 NVDA will do everything they need it to do.  If it doesn't, and we all
 find
 out that Window Eyes is truly Dead, then those needing more will need to
 start saving up for their copy of JAWS, whether they like it or not.

 I have two programs that NVDA will not read.  Window Eyes will read one of
 them, and when JAWS 18 has a Demo, I intend to try it, to see if it
 will read both of these programs.   If it does, against my will, I will
 need to purchase a copy of JAWS.    I might object, but if I wish to use
 these programs, then I have no choice.

 Time will tell what the Future of Window Eyes will be, and whether or not
 we
 each need to see what we can find to replace a decent and respectable
 Screen Reader.

 There are other choices than NVDA and JAWS, although, I know nothing
 about them.    And since I rarely hear of them, I assume they are not
 all that good.    Maybe some of you here have experience with some of
 the other choices in Screen Readers?

 Grumpy Dave


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