No, it's not an sma. That was just the price to upgrade certain versions of
WE beginning with v8 I believe. An sma would apply towards major upgrades.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 4:48 PM
To: bj colt; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE

Isn't that an SMA?  I mean $49 was not the whole price of a copy of window 
eyes.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: bj colt via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:17 AM
To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE

Hi,

As far as I am aware aisquared are no longer selling s m a's. In an email
from someone at aisquared a few months ago. The person sending the email to
asquared asked if s m a's could be purchased and how much they were. The
aisquared person stated that the cost of an upgrade was $49 but did not
mention s m a's. Leading me to believe then that window-eyes was not safe at
that point.

I keep a very slight hope that window-eyes will survive but all the signs
say it won't. A good Company with a good Public Relations office would have
kept window-eyes customers up to date with internal events in VFO. Sadly
this company hasn't, neither has aisquared. It is the lack of information
that is the problem. Taking into account dealers being informed that
window-eyes and related products will no longer be on offer after December
the first is extremely worrying. Add up all the negatives one does get an
idea window-eyes will be discontinued. As there are absolutely no positives.
What else are window-eyes customers to conclude. All down to both VFO and
Asquared for not keeping us up to date. As window-eyes customers we have the
right to be informed about the product we have loyally supported for over
two decades.

Live long and prosper, John

-----Original Message----- 
From: Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 3:58 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE

Yep, that that requires logical thinking which isn't to common these
days.  If they are still selling s m a contracts, that is a little odd.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On
Sun, 27 Nov 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

> With several employees leaving AI Squared and VFO instructing dealers to 
> no longer sell Window Eyes, that should tell you something?
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 3:10 PM
> To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Dave'
> Subject: Re: Future of WE
>
> I'm not sure I understand why some here feel this urgent need to switch
> to another screen reader at this moment.
>
> On 11/26/2016 6:03 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>>  Jaws 18 is out and should have a demo.
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Talk
>>  [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>  On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
>>  Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 1:51 PM
>>  To: A I Squared Support
>>  Subject: Future of WE
>>
>>  I must admit, the Future of Window Eyes does look like it could be very
>>  limited, as in soon to be Discontinued.   But, who knows for sure.  The
>>  Parent Company might be slow and Cumbersome which makes them slow to do
>>  anything that gets back to the customers    Slow to announce new stuff,
>>  slow to bring out Updates, slow to Fix problems etc.
>>
>>  I too am starting to use NVDA a bit more.   On my System, NVDA is just a
>>  touch slower, and I am still not understanding it way of reading parts 
>> of
>>  the screen, at least not consistently.
>>
>>  email, MS Word and the Internet all seem to read well enough.  Some 
>> times
>>  a
>>  bit too much is spoken, and I am still learning how to make NVDA speak
>>  less.
>>
>>  And to be fair, NVDA is not Free, but you can obtain it for Free, use 
>> it,
>>  and if you like it, then the owners and creators of NVDA would love to 
>> see
>>  a
>>  Donation come their way.  Money does motivate the continued improvement 
>> of
>>  their product.
>>
>>  If more money had been coming into GW Micro, then A I Squared would not
>>  have bought GW Micro.   and this discussion would never have taken 
>> place.
>>
>>  I doubt if any of us would work for Free indefinitely.   And the guys
>>  who have put NVDA together would not put in so much effort into NVDA if
>>  they
>>  did not receive enough to make it worth their time and energy.
>>
>>  The thing about NVDA is that you can donate $50 and the guys will be
>>  grateful.  $50 is cheaper than $1300 for JAWS.
>>
>>  NVDA doesn't do everything JAWS does, but to be honest, I do not need
>>  NVDA to do everything JAWS does.    Each person will need to find out if
>>  NVDA will do everything they need it to do.  If it doesn't, and we all
>>  find
>>  out that Window Eyes is truly Dead, then those needing more will need to
>>  start saving up for their copy of JAWS, whether they like it or not.
>>
>>  I have two programs that NVDA will not read.  Window Eyes will read one 
>> of
>>  them, and when JAWS 18 has a Demo, I intend to try it, to see if it
>>  will read both of these programs.   If it does, against my will, I will
>>  need to purchase a copy of JAWS.    I might object, but if I wish to use
>>  these programs, then I have no choice.
>>
>>  Time will tell what the Future of Window Eyes will be, and whether or 
>> not
>>  we
>>  each need to see what we can find to replace a decent and respectable
>>  Screen Reader.
>>
>>  There are other choices than NVDA and JAWS, although, I know nothing
>>  about them.    And since I rarely hear of them, I assume they are not
>>  all that good.    Maybe some of you here have experience with some of
>>  the other choices in Screen Readers?
>>
>>  Grumpy Dave
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