That would be the most unexpected news in the adaptive tech indestry. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 7:33 PM To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
What would happen, if the window-eyes screenreader becomes the only screen reader? Kenny Peyatt jr. On 11/29/2016 8:43 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: > Regardless of WE's future, it would be unexpected to receive all the > services you are used to (from WE) during its transition. > > On 11/29/2016 8:39 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote: >> I completely agree. Also remember how GW used to release public betas >> that users could try out on their own machines first and report back >> any problems or suggestions. That way it would make it even more >> stable on as many systems as they possibly could prior to the official release. >> >> Once AI Squared took over there were no more public betas (unless you >> counted the actual release which were more like betas). I found that >> each release became less stable and was more like a downgrade instead >> of an upgrade. >> Sorry for being so negative, but this has been my experience. >> >> On 11/28/2016 8:09 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: >>> There reason, even when they were GW Micro, was they wanted to make >>> sure the updates were sound, instead of just releasing them before >>> they were done. I find they have updates more often, and they are >>> not necessarily as sound, as if they felt they had to start competing with jaws. Pam. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim via Talk >>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:34 PM >>> To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>> >>> Vaughan, I have been using Window-Eyes for years now and I find with >>> each subsequent release the functionality improves considerably. I >>> realize that they do not come out with updates as frequently as a >>> lot of other software manufacturers do, but as far as I can tell >>> Window-Eyes is still very functional. Can you give me a specific >>> example of where it is losing its functionality? Just curious. >>> Catch Ya Later! de >>> >>> <KF8LT><Jim>. >>> >>> >>> On 27-Nov-16 14:51, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote: >>>> But: Window-eyes is gradually becoming less functional. Clearly - >>>> a screen reader is useless without interaction with an operating >>>> system and third party software - but if development of window-eyes >>>> ceases, the rest of software world still marches on. And: there >>>> are long standing bugs which now fall into legacy problems. And: >>>> VFO and the old GW Micro are organisationally very different in character. >>>> >>>> AiSquared' CEO is (or was) head of software development within VFO. >>>> Because AI Squared was starting to bring some momentum back to >>>> Window-Eyes, and had produced Fusion, I think he is well placed to >>>> give us some official goss. >>>> >>>> >>>> Vaughan. >>>> >>>> >>>> Please telephone the Regional Disability and Health Team prior to >>>> emailing or faxing any new referrals. >>>> >>>> http://doogle.ssi.govt.nz/resources/publications/reports-research/r >>>> egional/auckland/auckland-health-disability-resources.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Talk >>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt.nz@lists.window-eyes. >>>> com] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk >>>> Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2016 3:49 p.m. >>>> To: wohlg...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>>> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>>> >>>> Hi Jim. I totally agree with you. Let's just focus on the >>>> functionality of Window-Eyes. You are right that all it does is >>>> create fear, and uncertainty when this topic is discussed. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Jim [mailto:wohlg...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:45 PM >>>> To: Sky Mundell; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi there FOLKS! >>>> >>>> I recently enquired about purchasing an SMA for W.E. At this time >>>> they are still selling them. I don't believe they could or would >>>> sell something if the product was no longer going to be supported. >>>> All of this speculation is doing nothing but taking the discussion >>>> away from where it should be, discussing the actual functionality >>>> of W.E. So I say lets continue to use the product for as long as >>>> it's being produced as well as supported and if or when we have to >>>> cross a bridge of changing screen readers then perhaps we can pick >>>> up this discussion then..? Catch Ya All Later! de >>>> >>>> <KF8LT><Jim>. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26-Nov-16 21:20, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Peter. Speaking of what you said about Window-Eyes being dead, >>>> I have contacted our local dealer who sells both JAWS and >>>> Window-Eyes to discuss the situation of what was happening and he >>>> was shocked, and he told me that he had the head from optolek >>>> Canada, as Canada does have an optolek branch here, come and visit >>>> him, and the head told our dealer that they could sell both Optolek >>>> and Freedom products and that he wouldn't be surprised if AI Squared ended up in the same channel. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:49 PM >>>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>>> Subject: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>>> Hi all, >>>> When the founders and main staff of an organization leave, the >>>> business dies a quick death. 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