Think about this?
You can get a iphone and APH — Orbit Reader 20 for a lot less money
than a Notetaker?
-----Original Message----- From: Vaughan Dodd
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:44 PM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account
I'm similar: IPhone is the device of choice. Might actually get an
Ipad. Add a braille display, which isn't carried if not needed, and
for personal use - mainstream devices offer so much promise. Not so
for me at work though.
Vaughan.
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Friday, 17 March 2017 3:09 a.m.
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Dennis Long
Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account
In my case, my ipad mini 4 has taken the place of my victor reader
stream first generation, Booksense standard and plextalk pocket. It
has more volume, better battery life and better sound. It does
everything they do and a lot more.
-----Original Message-----
From: Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:54 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account
You know, this gets me thinking esp. With the conversations I've had
in the past week. We're getting what we wanted for years. We can go
into a electronics store and buy a iphone, a android phone, a mac, a
chromebook and soon windows computers with accessibility out of the
box. You don't have to spend extra money unless you want to. While
what is happening with zt fusion, something I spent my own money to
buy makes me mad. I'm seriously considering just going fully with
mainstream products. I find myself using my android devices more and
pulling out my laptop less.
"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never
promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls
Of Jericho
Reeva
On Mar 16, 2017 1:18 AM, "Dennis Long via Talk"
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:
I agree with you completely!
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:12 PM
To: Tony C; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account
Problem is you i phone users think everyone can use one and can use a
touch screen. They are not for everyone. I think blind folks fall
into that worse than any group. if it works for me, it is great for
everyone....
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2017, Tony C via Talk wrote:
I really think that in the very near future "adaptive" technology will
become a thing of the past. We aren't there yet, but more and more
things are becoming voice activated, and voice commanded. The market
for such special items as Window-eyes and Jaws is waining. Heck, the I
phone out of the box gives the blind user access to GPS, internet
searches, txt messageing, etc, without the need of an expensive piece
of software that at best in moderately useable. It's just a matter of
time.
-----Original Message----- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:05 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Failure to hold VFO to account
Greetings all.
I've just flicked through the latest edition of Access World from AFB.
We are promised CSUN updates in April.
In the 21st Century, and with our accessible technology industry
going through significant change, not to mention the demise of the
pony express, the failure of someone to get down and dirty with VFO
leadership suggests to me that we are being let down by credible
information sources.
Quite reasonably, AFB promotes its sponsorship of the Blind Bargain
blogs concerning CSUN events and exhibits, but these don't cut it
iehter.
One of the disappointing things about services like Apple Vis is that
although often people exchange useful information, the leadership
fails to critique the shortcomings of Apple with respect to its
developments in the specialty area of access. The same seems true on
the Windows side of the divide - with no one prepared to critique
VFO's
behaviours.
Vaughan.
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