Hi Nick, You may find the following podcast series helpful in this regard:
https://blindabilities.com/bapresents/introducing-a-new-series-iphone-101/ Enjoy, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 1:46 PM To: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; Butch Bussen <but...@shellworld.net> Cc: Reeva Webb <jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account Without veering too much off topic, is there some preliminary advice you can give for trying to learn how to navagate a touch screen? Full disclosure, I'm a button man. On 3/17/2017 9:34 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: > I was one of lthose who thought I would never want a touch screen > device. I started llistening to a podcast about the ipod touch. The > more I listened, I said to myself, I want one. I was amazed with what > Apple did with accessibility on a touch screen device. So in 2010, I > bought a ipod touch 4th generation and Haven't looked back. I like the > fact I can buy a off the shelf device and do everything I would do with > a specialized player and a whole lot ;more. > > -----Original Message----- From: Butch Bussen > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:11 AM > To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Reeva Webb ; Dennis Long > Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account > > I understand that. And that is great, for you. I just can't deal with > touch screens. Give me buttons to push. As I said in an earlier note, > the same solution isn't for everyone. You guys and your i whatevers > think they solve the world's access problems. Perhaps for some they do. > I can't figure out how to run my IPod. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Russ Kiehne > via Talk wrote: > >> In my case, my ipad mini 4 has taken the place of my victor reader >> stream first generation, Booksense standard and plextalk pocket. It >> has more volume, better battery life and better sound. It does >> everything they do and a lot more. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Reeva Webb via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:54 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Dennis Long >> Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account >> >> You know, this gets me thinking esp. With the conversations I've had >> in the >> past week. We're getting what we wanted for years. We can go into a >> electronics store and buy a iphone, a android phone, a mac, a chromebook >> and soon windows computers with accessibility out of the box. You don't >> have to spend extra money unless you want to. While what is happening >> with >> zt fusion, something I spent my own money to buy makes me mad. I'm >> seriously considering just going fully with mainstream products. I find >> myself using my android devices more and pulling out my laptop less. >> >> >> "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised >> night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho >> >> Reeva >> >> On Mar 16, 2017 1:18 AM, "Dennis Long via Talk" >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> wrote: >> >> I agree with you completely! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:12 PM >> To: Tony C; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account >> >> Problem is you i phone users think everyone can use one and can use a >> touch >> screen. They are not for everyone. I think blind folks fall into that >> worse than any group. if it works for me, it is great for everyone.... >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017, Tony C via Talk wrote: >> >>> I really think that in the very near future "adaptive" technology will >>> become a thing of the past. We aren't there yet, but more and more >>> things are becoming voice activated, and voice commanded. The market >>> for such special items as Window-eyes and Jaws is waining. Heck, the I >>> phone out of the box gives the blind user access to GPS, internet >>> searches, txt messageing, etc, without the need of an expensive piece >>> of software that at best in moderately useable. It's just a matter of >> time. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:05 PM >>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>> Subject: Failure to hold VFO to account >>> >>> Greetings all. >>> >>> I've just flicked through the latest edition of Access World from AFB. >>> We are promised CSUN updates in April. >>> >>> In the 21st Century, and with our accessible technology industry >>> going through significant change, not to mention the demise of the >>> pony express, the failure of someone to get down and dirty with VFO >>> leadership suggests to me that we are being let down by credible >> information sources. >>> >>> Quite reasonably, AFB promotes its sponsorship of the Blind Bargain >>> blogs concerning CSUN events and exhibits, but these don't cut it >>> iehter. >>> >>> One of the disappointing things about services like Apple Vis is that >>> although often people exchange useful information, the leadership >>> fails to critique the shortcomings of Apple with respect to its >>> developments in the specialty area of access. 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