Hi Brenda, I am not sure whether you realize, but you can reassign the F8 copy key under hot keys, browse mode. Also, I only run desktops, and all of them have a battery backup, which cost about $50.00 and will keep your PC alive until you either power down manually, or it will automatically execute the Windows Hibernate command and save everything to the disk and then shut down safely.
Hth, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 2:35 PM To: Van Lant, Robin <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: gun shy about new laptop Hi robin, I have a similar story to yours. I am now a casual home computer user as I no longer do medical transcription. I own a 15 inch Lenovo laptop which I purchased last spring when my Win7 pc almost died. When I called Window-eyes Tech support to find out what to avoid with laptops, I was not warned about the function keys being designated and the need to press the FN key to overide the default uses. Best buy didn't tell me this eather until I had already paid for Geek Squad service/set-up, and my laptop was ready to go home. fortunately, my laptop does have an application key. Also, my numpad has an insert key as part of the numpad. the numpad insert key is very small, but it is there. could you have this key without realizing it (just a thought)? I still don't like having to use the FN key when i want to use the Window-eyes copy & paste key F8 in some programs. It is a nuisance to use the FN+fF6 key in Thunderbird as if you do it wrong it turns airplane mode on and I lose my wifi connection. F5 to refresh is the only other function key I have to look out for, but these are not Window-eyes command keys. F1 is really tricky because it will mute speech if the FN key is not pressed. that being said, it is sometimes convenient to have the system function keys for things like volume and close down. I haven't used the laptop layout, but could that be a solution for now? My Lenovo laptop cost $350 at Best Buy. It was discontinued shortly after that, but it has what I need. Lenovo could be an option for you. The only thing I like about laptops is that if the power goes out the computer doesn't shut down. My husband was able to revive my Win7 desktop, and I will use my Win7 desktop until it really dies and forces me to become proficient with Win10 on a laptop, possibly with the laptop layout for Window-eyes. sorry for lengthening a short ansre. Just my thoughts on the subject. Brenda because I will use my Win7 desktop until it really dies. On 4/12/2017 12:14 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote: > Late last summer I got a new HP laptop. The primary thing that drew me to it > in the store was the keyboard layout of having the 10-key number pad on the > right, yet only being a 15 inch screen. What I did not realize until after I > got it home and paid money for a tech to come help me set it up was two > things. First, it does not have the application key, which I have learned to > get around with the Shift F10 keystroke. The bigger problem was the whole > thing we've talked about with now having to push the FN key in order to get > the function keys to work the way I want. (I had not found someone who was > comfortable going into the bios to help me see about changing this.) The > biggest problem Is that this function key thing also applies to the Insert > key, as it is right next to the F12 key. I've gotten pretty good at using > the caps lock key instead, but this requires some real finger gymnastics to > activate certain Window Eyes command. Aside from all this, there is also > some we > ird clicking thing that the keyboard occasionally does that is annoying. > All this to say, it's not been a great experience and had I not invested in > paying a tech to set up the computer for me, I probably would have quickly > returned it to Costco for a refund or exchange. > > So, I'm in a situation now where I may be giving this laptop to my sighted > husband and getting a new one, but I'm gun-shy about how not to repeat this > problem in my laptop selection. I am not a heavy computer user at home, so > did not want to spend much money, although I'm not looking for the cheapest > netbook thing either. I mainly looked at Best Buy and Costco, because I > wanted to get my hands on the keyboard and feel the layout. 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