> I agree i brought a new tosheba notebook couple years back and after a week.
Each time i booted it up the sound was disabled i took it back twice to the 
store to be fixed.
After twice of no sound at all i took it back and payed more for a dell 
notebook and never had problems with the dell.
Cheers Michael.
> On 14 Apr 2017, at 1:41 am, Van Lant, Robin via Talk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'm also going to toss in that my Toshiba lasted just two years that 
> completely died.  My husband's Toshiba is maybe 4 years old and the keyboard 
> now won't work correctly -- something about the keyboard drivers not being 
> compatible with the latest Windows updates.  I'm a bit nervous about the 
> quality of Toshiba laptops.  Then again, a computer tech friend of mine says 
> most laptops for personal use are not built to last more than a few years.  I 
> miss having my desktops that easily lasted. 7-8 years or longer.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Jo Taliaferro via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 3:53 PM
> To: Chris G; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: gun shy about new laptop
> 
> Hello, on a similar note, I have been reading up on to Sheba and some of the 
> losses that have occurred because of various things like bad management, etc. 
> How risky is it now, to buy a to Shiba computer for business purposes 
> question does anyone have a clue after hearing Jonathan Moseman's podcast in 
> November 2016 question thank you, I have liked to Shiba in the past but 
> wonder if I couldn't get a business computer and still have the portability 
> that I like? Thank you so much.
> 
> Jo Taliaferro 
> 
> On Apr 12, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Chris G via Talk <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> A couple years ago I purchased a Toshiba.
> There were some thigs i liked.
> 1.  Toshiba had a  utility where I went in and turned off the function key 
> myself.
> 2.  It has the 10 key number pad.
> 3.  it has the applications key.
> Here is the link, you can get it refurbished for about  $350.00 It has 
> windows 8.1 on it but you should be able to install Windows 10.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00FOXJ9NM/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
> 
> 
> 
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> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, Apr 12, 2017 12:14 PM EST
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> Subject: gun shy about new laptop
> 
> Late last summer I got a new HP laptop.  The primary thing that drew me to it 
> in the store was the keyboard layout of having the 10-key number pad on the 
> right, yet only being a 15 inch screen.  What I did not realize until after I 
> got it home and paid money for a tech to come help me set it up was two 
> things.  First, it does not have the application key, which I have learned to 
> get around with the Shift F10 keystroke. The bigger problem was the whole 
> thing we've talked about with now having to push the FN key in order to get 
> the function keys to work the way I want.  (I had not found someone who was 
> comfortable going into the bios to help me see about changing this.)  The 
> biggest problem Is that this function key thing also applies to the Insert 
> key, as it is right next to the F12 key.  I've gotten pretty good at using 
> the caps lock key instead, but this requires some real finger gymnastics to 
> activate certain Window Eyes command.  Aside from all this, there is also 
> some w
 e 
>  ird clicking thing that the keyboard occasionally does that is annoying. All 
> this to say, it's not been a great experience and had I not invested in 
> paying a tech to set up the computer for me, I probably would have quickly 
> returned it to Costco for a refund or exchange.
> 
> So, I'm in a situation now where I may be giving this laptop to my sighted 
> husband and getting a new one, but I'm gun-shy about how not to repeat this 
> problem in my laptop selection.  I am not a heavy computer user at home, so 
> did not want to spend much money, although I'm not looking for the cheapest 
> netbook thing either.  I mainly looked at Best Buy and Costco, because I 
> wanted to get my hands on the keyboard and feel the layout.  I like that 
> Costco doubles the manufacturer's warranty and provides great, free help desk 
> support for the computers purchased there.
> 
> Any advice from those of you having purchased computers lately on how to 
> navigate this keyboard dilemma, especially if buying one online?  I'd really 
> like to stay in the $500 range, if possible.
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