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On 5/17/2017 1:39 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote: > if you a computer engineer you know a lot more than I do and people like > you should help other blind people by giving them hands on training if > you do tech support.At 04:01 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote: >> Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. We all need different >> things. I am a computer engineer, so I need access to some of the >> more advanced aspects of the screen reader to use my various software >> development tools. Screen readers are there to help all of us. And >> that means having lots of features that some of us will use and that >> others will not. Best, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com >> 619-750-9431 (M) | 858-777-3311 (F) My WebSite | Twitter | >> FaceBook | LinkedIn -----Original Message----- From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+juanhernandez98=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May >> 16, 2017 9:01 AM To: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes >> Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes >> to JAWS Migration I don't like that either if this what does happen. I >> use outlook 2013 at work part of office 365 and at home I still use >> Eudora 7.1.9 for my client e-mail and I have also outlook set up as I >> have also office 365 at home. Don't you feel that screne readers >> should be made as simple as possible? -----Original Message----- From: >> Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:40 AM >> To: Steve Nutt <st...@comproom.co.uk>; 'Dennis Long' >> <dennisl1...@gmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS >> Migration I just wished all of the graphics were labeled in the >> windows live mail app. When I arrow up and down in the windows live >> maill app in jaws, it wonâ?Tt say things like, replied, forwarded, >> read etc. It does in window eyes. -----Original Message----- From: >> Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:21 AM To: 'Dennis >> Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS >> Migration Hi, It really depends on what you want to do. NVDA is >> vastly better on the web than JAWS and I believe always will be. But >> not configurable enough. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 15 May 2017 17:45 To: 'Darrell >> Bowles' <dgbow...@msn.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS >> Migration Got news for one or two user won't make a difference. You >> get what you pay for or don't pay for. NVDA is nowhere as good as >> Jaws! -----Original Message----- From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:38 PM >> To: aist...@ameritech.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: >> Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration If you really want to send a message to >> VFO, either use narrator, Supernova, or donate to NVDA! -----Original >> Message----- From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf >> Of Adaptive Information Systems Inc. via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, >> 2017 12:35 PM To: 'Doug Geoffray' <dgeoff...@vfogroup.com>; >> 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: >> RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Hi Doug, Is there any chance another >> company could buy window-eyes and keep it developing in to the great >> screen reader it is now? What a crying shame we blind screen reader >> folks only have one choice here in the U.S. for screen readers!! So I >> am again looking at Dolphin screen reader, since I use to have it back >> with version 3.5 and also learning better how to use NVDA, though NVDA >> has a good way to go to equal Window-eyes! Regards, Roger Behm >> Adaptive Information Systems Inc. We Make Technology Accessible to the >> vision Impaired and Reading Disabled Roger A. Behm, President 1611 >> Clover Lane Janesville WI 53545-1388 Fax: 608-758-7898 Voice: >> 608-758-0933 Email: aist...@ameritech.net Web Page: >> www.adaptiveinformation.org -----Original Message----- From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:48 AM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS >> Migration Window-Eyes will continue to run as it always has. Even if >> you migrate you can continue to have Window-Eyes installed and switch >> back and forth as you need to. The only thing with Window-Eyes is it >> will no longer be upgraded. So 9.5.4 is the last version. Regards, >> Doug -----Original Message----- From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:28 AM To: Aaron >> Smith <ajsm...@vfogroup.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS >> Migration Need clarity on one thing. As an current paid user of WE, if >> we convert to JAWS, does that mean we no longer can use WE? ----- >> Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Smith via Talk" >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> To: <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Sent: >> Monday, May 15, 2017 10:14 AM Subject: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration >> Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes >> family. We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended in >> the United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States and >> Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We are >> committed to our customers and will honor existing product purchases >> and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue to provide >> technical support to end users that have purchased Window-Eyes or a >> support package. All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can >> continue to use the software indefinitely; however, as the Windows(r) >> operating system and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may >> not function adequately for your needs. We understand how important a >> screen reader is to you and are offering JAWS(r) for Windows 18 as a >> replacement. We are committed to providing a smooth transition and >> will honor existing Window-Eyes product purchases and software >> maintenance agreements (SMA), as follows. End users that paid for and >> are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will be converted to JAWS 18 at no >> charge. If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can >> purchase an upgrade to JAWS 18. If you are using the free version of >> Window-Eyes you can continue to use it. While there is not an upgrade >> path from the free version, if you are interested in purchasing JAWS, >> please contact our sales team at 800-444-4443. Existing Window-Eyes >> SMAs will be rolled into the JAWS SMA program for end users that >> migrate to JAWS. Learn more about the migration options and pricing by >> visiting http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate. To make this >> process as easy as possible, we ask you to complete a simple web form >> that will go directly to our sales team, who will then contact you >> with an authorization code for JAWS 18, or request additional >> information if necessary. Requests for upgrades must be submitted at >> http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrateform or by phone at >> 800-444-4443 by July 31, 2017. Note, the free Window-Eyes Offer for >> Users of Microsoft Office version is not part of the conversion >> program. If you have any questions please call us at 800-444-4443 or >> email us at mailto:ord...@vfogroup.com. Aaron Smith VFOT | Enterprise >> Compliance 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T >> 727-803-8000 x 6208 F 727-803-8001 ajsm...@vfogroup.com >> www.vfogroup.com The information contained in this communication is >> confidential, may constitute inside information, and is intended only >> for the use of the addressee. It is the property of VFOT. Unauthorized >> use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof >> is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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