Olusegun,

John is right. The program I wrote was just to confirm the problem. But I read your message a while ago and have been pondering it while luxuriating in Peet's coffee. That's my latest low-tech discovery. Highly recommended. (smile)

WARNING! If you don't want to geek freak out close this message now!
Three ... two ... one ... lift off!

Solving the screen reader flag problem programmatically is possible, but not very practical. A program that would take care of it automatically would need to be loaded at startup, wait a little while, and check to see if the flag is true. Then it would know your screen reader is running. (No assumptions is the golden rule in programming.) If so it would then have to begin a process loop. Here's what that loop would have to do. 1. Enumerate all the running processes to see if a screen reader is loaded. I might be able to query for Window-Eyes, NVDA, and JAWS individually.
2. Get the screen reader flag status and see if it's false.
3. If both conditions are true then reset the flag to true.
4. Put the program to sleep for whatever time is determined to be reasonable for how often the check is performed so it doesn't bog down the system but doesn't wait too long before resetting the flag. 5. Iterate the loop and repeat the above steps. This is done automatically but it is a process nonetheless.

Checking the flag is a simple function, but building a construct with all running processes isn't exactly a small task. It's more or less a slimmed down shell of the Windows task manager without a UI. So I gave this idea a thumbs down.

Then a more practical approach came to mind. It would be a program you could run to see if the screen reader flag is true and prompt you to enable it if not. Yeah ... but, I thought, this really gets back to the original solution of remembering to reload your screen reader because you'd have to remember to run the program. But wait! I thought. It would be beneficial because reloading our screen readers while some programs are running requires us to close and reload the program due to the preparations our screen reader does for that program when it loads. For example, when I'm in my programming developer writing a program I cannot reload NVDA. It cannot see the caret when I do so. It has to find it when the program launches. And I've had to close and reload other programs after reloading my screen reader because some things stop working. Again, screen readers sometimes have to see the program launch in order to work properly with them. Seeing the window come into focus isn't always enough.

So, provided that our screen reader has recovered to a fully functional state after having to load another screen reader to get there this would eliminate the need to reload it to reset the screen reader flag.

Let me know if anyone sees any flaws in my logic.

Regards,
Tom

On 11/7/2017 10:19 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote:
Tom, I like the geeky nature of your post.  I thought you had mentioned that
you wrote a program to solve the problem.  Is the program up for sale?  If
yes, how can I get it to snuggle up in my hands and at what cost?

Thanks for sharing and for making me a bit more geekier than I deserve!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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