Thanks for your reply, tom. As you see, I am behind in my email again,
grin.
Carol
On 5/19/2018 5:07 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
Yes, Thunderbird is a strange beast. They made some changes years ago
that screen readers had to work around in order to get into the
windows. So nothing really works conventionally there. That was when
we lost the mouse in TB as well.
Actually there's no difference in how the Window-Eyes attribute hot
key works from computer to computer. It's dependent on what's selected
under verbosity. I had most turned off for some reason. And now that
I've turned them back on it's a one shot deal. So this was a win win
situation. Smile.
Regards,
Tom
On 5/19/2018 12:00 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi Tom,
This is very helpful. I could do this with my Win7 pc, but forgot
how it worked and needed it for win10. It is good to know that the
auto setting default is black. As I have a black laser printer, I
guess everything I print will be some shade of black, but this still
would cause an issue for a file I would send to someone else. Thanks.
As an aside, I am using Thunderbird and have turned on attributes.
At the beginning of each new line, a number is spoken (most likely
the ASCII representation for that character) and then the color. The
funny thing is that almost every line has a different color, black on
black, medium blue on blac, midnight blue on black, black on black,
blue on black, etc. I find this to be interesting. Also, the
speaking of attributes is only available in certain places. For
example, I can check attributes in edit boxes and documents, but can
not check them in Thunderbird edit boxes. Also, when I press
control-delete and it works, it reads the number representation, the
font size and foreground and background color. When pressing it
twice, it reads the same information and adds the color digital
values for both foreground and background. This is interesting how
things work from one machine to another, grin. Thanks for your help.
Carol
On 5/19/2018 1:10 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hi Carol,
The automatic font color is black unless (I assume) you choose a
theme with a different default color. You can check the text the
caret is on by pressing Control+Nulmpad delete twice. Pressing it
once only speaks the unicode value, twice speaks that along with the
font name, size, and color.
You can manually set the default font to black. but it's a nightmare
and seems to have a mind of its own. I tried using Window-eyes,
NVDA, and Narrator. I only got the change to stick once out of
countless tries. I often got a completely different color than I
thought I selected. And when I selected black I got a slightly
lighter black, of which there are several to choose from. So I gave up.
But if you want to fight with it, or you have a pair of eyes handy,
press Alt+H, F, N, to open the font dialog. If you can select the
color, then press the set as default button, select the apply to all
rather than current document radio button, and OK.
This will make it the default for all new documents. But it won't
change existing documents you open.
As for attributes? Press Windows+A to toggle attribute changes on
and off. You should hear that spoken.
To set what you hear about with it on go into verbosity, common,
attribute changes. You can select what you hear and also make them
global or program specific.
Note, the Windows+A hot key is specific to the Word set file. So
it's not global.
Sorry, but I have no idea on the mailings and labels problem.
Hth,
Tom
On 5/18/2018 1:57 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Hi,
I have Word 2016 on my Win10 pc. I am using WE and would like the
answer to a couple of questions.
First, under fonts, the color selection there says auto. I would
like to make certain that my work is always done with a white
background and black characters. Of course, I understand the
background color would be the same as the paper it is being printed
on.
Second, how can I get WE to speak color changes or other attribute
changes in the event there are other colors used in imported
documents?
My last question for now is can I get WE to speak what is in the
send to address edit box when working with mailings or particularly
labels? Even though I put an address in the edit box, WE says it is
blank or says nothing. Right now, in order to enter an address, I
must put it in my current document and copy it to the clipboard,
open the mailings, labels option and focus the address box, press
ctrl-a to clear anything in the box and press ctrl-paste to put the
information in from the clipboard. If I do not do it this way,
sometimes, the label comes out blank and at other times, there is
only one line of the address that gets printed.
Thanks for any help.
Carol
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