But sometimes it's true. So many key commands we associate with WE or 
Jaws (or an e-mail client for that matter) are actually Microsoft commands.

On 8/27/2018 5:41 PM, geodom--- via Talk wrote:
> Whatever company you call blames the other guy, rather than themselves 
> or their products.  Pam.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:46 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Tony C
> Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> Yep! They always blame it on anything except jaws. lmao.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: geodom--- via Talk
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:09 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> Oh yeah!  So Microsoft can ping pong it back to them!  Right!  Pam.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 7:15 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Tony C
> Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> Jaws still isn't that great. lol. If I set jaws to load at the log on
> screen, and the PC goes to sleep, when I wake it up jaws will not speak. I
> have to hope and cross my fingers and try logging in. then I can start
> window eyes because jaws still will not run. Once I start WE then I can 
> turn
> it off and start jaws and it speaks. I left jaws back in 2004 because it
> didn't work well with a site builder I ws using and WE worked just fine. I
> have never had a productive encounter with FS tech support. 95 percent of
> the time they tell you to contact Microsoft. LIKE, WHAT?
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: geodom--- via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 2:34 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> But I could do more with window eyes with the computer right out of the 
> box.
> Pam.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Long via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:31 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Cc: Dennis Long
> Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> Jaws is a very good screen reader.  People need to give it time.  You 
> didn't
> learn WindowEyes over night and you won't learn Jaws over night either.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of CJ&AA MAY via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:12 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Cc: CJ&AA MAY
> Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> I did consider going down this route but I am basically lazy and it would
> mean learning a new operating system. I am so familiar with the Microsoft
> operating system and Windows that in the end I bit the bullet and went over
> to Jaws.
> Do I still miss Window-eyes? Yes, but migrating to Jaws hasn't been as
> challenging as I feared and it helped being so familiar with the Windows
> operating system.
> 
> Alison
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk <[email protected]> On
> Behalf Of George Savory via Talk
> Sent: 23 August 2018 18:57
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
> Cc: George Savory <[email protected]>
> Subject: Considering VoiceOver
> 
> Listers,
> Been using Win-Eyes  since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be updated, I
> am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using VoiceOver on my
> iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if Jaws will ever work 
> well
> with websites that use calenders; besides, I won't have to be upgrading a
> screen reader  everytime there is an upgrade
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