Hi David,

Below is a link to my public OneDrive folder:
https://1drv.ms/f/s!
There you will find a zip archive containing disk images which you can burn to 
DVD and a readme file.
Regardless which you burn, you can boot to a talking Windows 7 pre-installation 
environment running NVDA using the Eloquence synthesizer.
If you burn the smaller image, you can at the very least explore the disks 
attached on the booted system.
If you burn the larger image, you can even install Windows 7.
This might be enough to get the broken Windows 8 system you have running with a 
fresh copy of Windows 7.
Incidentally, I used the larger image to install Windows 7 into a VMWare 
Workstation virtual machine, and then I upgraded it to Windows 10.
But, that's another story. Smile
Of course, you would still need to activate whatever Windows version you end up 
with, and so purchasing a product code is still necessary.
However, the tool I am offering might be of help to you or whoever reads this.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On 
Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: June 21, 2019 2:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: David <trailerda...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Installing Win10

Think I might have to stress a couple of points here, just to help you all 
assisting me the better. Sorry for not being totally clear on this from the 
start.

First of all, I do have WE9.54 here, full installation CD, which I received 
very few days before WinEyes was all ditched. That is, it would be the latest 
version ever. On that matter, I hence should be totally covered.

My Win7 machine has 4GB of RAM, running a dual core 2.4GHZ CPU. I did try 
running the Win10 upgrader on it, to see if it would work, and was told the 
computer would work fine, but I would need some drivers. Going to the 
manufacturer, Dell, I did find no driver for upgrading. Besides, I want to keep 
the computer as an off-line backup system. It works just fine, and has served 
here for more than a handful years, though it was second-hand when I got it.

So what then about the computer I am considering turning into Win10? It is an 
HP, holding 8GB, and a Quadro CPU of something like 2.8GHZ - taken from memory. 
It should have no trouble in meeting the minimum specs for RAM and speed, 
though I do know nothing about drivers. Like I said, it did run Win8.1, all 
till the OS got broken, through some maintaning upgrade. Since it does not 
really start, just gets to a point where it tells me the Windows is no longer 
valid, I will have to wipe the drive altogether, hence the computer would be to 
consider as a "blank" system. In other words, updating the windows on that 
machine, is not possible. And unless i can get Win10 on it, my guess is that a 
quite working hardware might have to simply be thrown away. Booting from the 
DVD drive on the computer should be little trouble, since my memory tells me it 
is already set do do such booting.

For both computers, they are laptops, so ideas like changing any hardware, is 
no alternative. And should not give much for functionality.

Again, thanks to all for your assistance. I am still all ears, if you have 
further input to contribute. Great to hear I can do the installation of Win10, 
without eyes. IPhone and apps for sighted assistance is not really an option 
here, simply because I don't own any Apple stuff, and to get an IPhone just for 
the benefit of installing a computer seem out of range. Smiles. I am aware the 
option to have similar assistance over Android, but would greatly appreciate 
doing the job as much as possible without depending on having more or less 
knowledgeable eyes messing with the screen reading. Used to instal computers 
back in the 90's, so am not totally new to the idea of getting the job done - 
though Windows do pose certain challenges that we did not face back then. 
smiles.
David

On 6/21/2019 10:53 AM, Thomas N. Chan via Talk wrote:
> For the win 8 upgrade to win 10, I really don't think it's a > 
> authorise upgrade since you don't really own a licence copy of win 8. 
> > So upgrade path is not applicable. You will get good deals if you > 
> stick with win 10 home. I am not sure where you can get good deal > 
> online but I really did seen good pricing on amazon, maybe bestbuy > 
> etc. > > > -------------------- regards Thomas N. Chan -----Original > 
> Message----- From: Talk > 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> > Behalf Of James Bentley via Talk Sent: Friday, 21 June 2019 2:34 AM 
> > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com><mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: > 
> James Bentley <bentleyj1...@att.net><mailto:bentleyj1...@att.net> 
> Subject: Re: Installing Win10 > > Hi David, > > You should be able to 
> buy a legal copy of Windows 10 from Amazon for > around twenty bucks 
> less than what Microsoft charges. > > Sometimes, you can find a legal 
> recycled license from Ebay. These > recy
 cled licenses can cost around thirty bucks. They just send you > the key and 
you go to the Microsoft web site to get your download. > Always buy from a 
dealer > > from Ebay who has loads of excellant reviews. > > Also, you might 
still be able to upgrade Windows 8.1 with an > authorized copy > > of Windows 
10 at no cost. That is also downloaded from a Microsoft > server but, I will 
wait for more details if some one else can please > post about that. > > Good 
luck, > > James B > > > -----Original Message----- From: David via Talk Sent: 
Thursday, June > 20, 2019 1:07 PM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: 
> Installing Win10 > > To the tech guys on this list, > > In about 6 months 
Microsoft will end the support for Win7. My Good > old working-horse of a 
computer might then be retired to make it for > a backup system. > > > I do 
have a computer stored away in a closet, which has a broken > version of Win8.1 
on it. That is, it does not start up, only presents > some kind of an e
   rror screen, informing me the Windows is not a valid > version. Was a 
computer I bought second-handed, and apparently the > seller was no honest guy. 
Now, I wonder if I might go for a full > version of Win10, and simply wipe out 
the old hard drive on that > computer, and do a totally clean install of Win10. 
> > > I would be buying the Win10, through the Microsoft store, and hence > get 
a downloadable of the operative system. > > > Never been using Win10, and only 
have paid half an ear to any > discussion on the matter. But I seem to remember 
something about it > being possible for a blind to install the OS all without 
eyes. Is > that correct, and does it even apply when I will be doing a clean - 
> all from scratch - installation? > > > Could of course go and buy a brand new 
computer, but they tend to be > loaded with all kinds of bloatware, over here. 
And the store I saw > the other day, offering to install a clean win10 on their 
new > systems, asked a price for the windows, about
  2  0% more than what I > see it advertised in Microsoft Store. Would then be 
a better business > to get the broken win8 machine of mine going. > > > Thanks 
for all input you can give me on the matter. I will not be > doing my choice 
all at this time, but will be nice to know what to > do, once the right time or 
offer comes up. > _______________________________________________
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