Hi Tom,

Here's a direct link to the talking windows pre-installation environment zip 
archive itself, rather than the folder it resides in:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvkWQaterKGvg8wIfJ1uGvcA3MrUGg
If you sign in with your own Microsoft account on the page which opens (meaning 
that you have to have a Microsoft account), the download should begin.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: June 22, 2019 10:58 PM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Installing Win10

Rod,

Here's what I get with your link in Chrome.
This 1drv.ms page can’t be found
No webpage was found for the web address: https://1drv.ms/f/s HTTP ERROR 404

On 6/22/2019 10:39 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> I am not able to give you a link to the specific file you require.
> Rather, the URL I gave is to the OneDrive folder containing the file.
> So, the URL I gave you would be the page displaying the folder contents, and 
> so you would have to navigate the page and find the file you need, 
> specifically:
> twpe_r2.zip
> This name on the page should represent as a link which, when pressed, would 
> commence its download.
> If this doesn't work, I could try another file transfer method.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Rod
> 
> Sent from Outlook for Windows
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk <talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> 
> On Behalf Of David via Talk
> Sent: June 22, 2019 9:42 PM
> To: Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Cc: David <trailerda...@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Installing Win10
> 
> Rod,
> 
> Thanks for your effort to help.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I wonder if the link you provided was broken, or 
> incomplete. Tried to press Enter on it, and Firefox (my prefered
> browser) came  up. It hang, and still something like 45 minutes later, 
> nothing has happened. Normally, things should have started downloading, 
> shouldn't they?
> 
> 
> Would you mind, please, checking your link, and letting me know if there is 
> something further I need to do to get hold of the info?
> 
> 
> Thanks again, your help is great. Did not know there was an accessible 
> way of installing Win7. Will come in handy for other times as well.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David
> 
> On 6/23/2019 2:43 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Below is a link to my public OneDrive folder:
>> https://1drv.ms/f/s!
>> There you will find a zip archive containing disk images which you can burn 
>> to DVD and a readme file.
>> Regardless which you burn, you can boot to a talking Windows 7 
>> pre-installation environment running NVDA using the Eloquence synthesizer.
>> If you burn the smaller image, you can at the very least explore the disks 
>> attached on the booted system.
>> If you burn the larger image, you can even install Windows 7.
>> This might be enough to get the broken Windows 8 system you have running 
>> with a fresh copy of Windows 7.
>> Incidentally, I used the larger image to install Windows 7 into a VMWare 
>> Workstation virtual machine, and then I upgraded it to Windows 10.
>> But, that's another story. Smile
>> Of course, you would still need to activate whatever Windows version you end 
>> up with, and so purchasing a product code is still necessary.
>> However, the tool I am offering might be of help to you or whoever reads 
>> this.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> Sent from Outlook for Windows
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Talk 
>> <talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On Behalf 
>> Of David via Talk
>> Sent: June 21, 2019 2:13 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Cc: David <trailerda...@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Installing Win10
>>
>> Think I might have to stress a couple of points here, just to help you all 
>> assisting me the better. Sorry for not being totally clear on this from the 
>> start.
>>
>> First of all, I do have WE9.54 here, full installation CD, which I received 
>> very few days before WinEyes was all ditched. That is, it would be the 
>> latest version ever. On that matter, I hence should be totally covered.
>>
>> My Win7 machine has 4GB of RAM, running a dual core 2.4GHZ CPU. I did try 
>> running the Win10 upgrader on it, to see if it would work, and was told the 
>> computer would work fine, but I would need some drivers. Going to the 
>> manufacturer, Dell, I did find no driver for upgrading. Besides, I want to 
>> keep the computer as an off-line backup system. It works just fine, and has 
>> served here for more than a handful years, though it was second-hand when I 
>> got it.
>>
>> So what then about the computer I am considering turning into Win10? It is 
>> an HP, holding 8GB, and a Quadro CPU of something like 2.8GHZ - taken from 
>> memory. It should have no trouble in meeting the minimum specs for RAM and 
>> speed, though I do know nothing about drivers. Like I said, it did run 
>> Win8.1, all till the OS got broken, through some maintaning upgrade. Since 
>> it does not really start, just gets to a point where it tells me the Windows 
>> is no longer valid, I will have to wipe the drive altogether, hence the 
>> computer would be to consider as a "blank" system. In other words, updating 
>> the windows on that machine, is not possible. And unless i can get Win10 on 
>> it, my guess is that a quite working hardware might have to simply be thrown 
>> away. Booting from the DVD drive on the computer should be little trouble, 
>> since my memory tells me it is already set do do such booting.
>>
>> For both computers, they are laptops, so ideas like changing any hardware, 
>> is no alternative. And should not give much for functionality.
>>
>> Again, thanks to all for your assistance. I am still all ears, if you have 
>> further input to contribute. Great to hear I can do the installation of 
>> Win10, without eyes. IPhone and apps for sighted assistance is not really an 
>> option here, simply because I don't own any Apple stuff, and to get an 
>> IPhone just for the benefit of installing a computer seem out of range. 
>> Smiles. I am aware the option to have similar assistance over Android, but 
>> would greatly appreciate doing the job as much as possible without depending 
>> on having more or less knowledgeable eyes messing with the screen reading. 
>> Used to instal computers back in the 90's, so am not totally new to the idea 
>> of getting the job done - though Windows do pose certain challenges that we 
>> did not face back then. smiles.
>> David
>>
>> On 6/21/2019 10:53 AM, Thomas N. Chan via Talk wrote:
>>> For the win 8 upgrade to win 10, I really don't think it's a > 
>>> authorise upgrade since you don't really own a licence copy of win 8.
>>>> So upgrade path is not applicable. You will get good deals if you >
>>> stick with win 10 home. I am not sure where you can get good deal > 
>>> online but I really did seen good pricing on amazon, maybe bestbuy > 
>>> etc. > > > -------------------- regards Thomas N. Chan -----Original 
>>> >
>>> Message----- From: Talk >
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of James Bentley via Talk Sent: Friday, 21 June 2019 2:34 AM
>>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com><mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: 
>>> > James Bentley <bentleyj1...@att.net><mailto:bentleyj1...@att.net>
>>> Subject: Re: Installing Win10 > > Hi David, > > You should be able 
>>> to buy a legal copy of Windows 10 from Amazon for > around twenty 
>>> bucks less than what Microsoft charges. > > Sometimes, you can find 
>>> a legal recycled license from Ebay. These > recy
>>    cled licenses can cost around thirty bucks. They just send you > the key 
>> and you go to the Microsoft web site to get your download. > Always buy from 
>> a dealer > > from Ebay who has loads of excellant reviews. > > Also, you 
>> might still be able to upgrade Windows 8.1 with an > authorized copy > > of 
>> Windows 10 at no cost. That is also downloaded from a Microsoft > server 
>> but, I will wait for more details if some one else can please > post about 
>> that. > > Good luck, > > James B > > > -----Original Message----- From: 
>> David via Talk Sent: Thursday, June > 20, 2019 1:07 PM To: WE English 
>> Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: > Installing Win10 > > To the tech guys on 
>> this list, > > In about 6 months Microsoft will end the support for Win7. My 
>> Good > old working-horse of a computer might then be retired to make it for 
>> > a backup system. > > > I do have a computer stored away in a closet, which 
>> has a broken > version of Win8.1 on it. That is, it does not start up, only 
>> presents > some kind of an e
>>      rror screen, informing me the Windows is not a valid > version. Was a 
>> computer I bought second-handed, and apparently the > seller was no honest 
>> guy. Now, I wonder if I might go for a full > version of Win10, and simply 
>> wipe out the old hard drive on that > computer, and do a totally clean 
>> install of Win10. > > > I would be buying the Win10, through the Microsoft 
>> store, and hence > get a downloadable of the operative system. > > > Never 
>> been using Win10, and only have paid half an ear to any > discussion on the 
>> matter. But I seem to remember something about it > being possible for a 
>> blind to install the OS all without eyes. Is > that correct, and does it 
>> even apply when I will be doing a clean - > all from scratch - installation? 
>> > > > Could of course go and buy a brand new computer, but they tend to be > 
>> loaded with all kinds of bloatware, over here. And the store I saw > the 
>> other day, offering to install a clean win10 on their new > systems, asked a 
>> price for the windows, about
>>     2  0% more than what I > see it advertised in Microsoft Store. 
>> Would then be a better business > to get the broken win8 machine of 
>> mine going. > > > Thanks for all input you can give me on the matter. 
>> I will not be > doing my choice all at this time, but will be nice to 
>> know what to > do, once the right time or offer comes up. > 
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