Try n v d a. I jump back and forrth between windoweyes and n v d a. n
v d a has some nice features, and it is free, although I donate a bit
when I download a new copy.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022, Larry Higgins via Talk
wrote:
I realize that this might be a long shot, and at the same time, a big duh,
but are you sure that browse mode is actually kicking in?
Shoot, I guess if this starts happening to me, I would probably be tempted
to finally give up on WE altogether.
I, like all of us WE die-hards, are still so comfortable with this once great
screen reader. I must admit to being a bit timid when it comes to completely
submitting to the ways of the shark.
The main reason, outside of WE's overall ease of use for sticking with WE has
more to do with JAW's read all settings. IMHO, JAWS simply doesn't allow
enough of an appropriate pause between the end and beginnings of sentences.
It reads in such a way that I simply wouldn't tolerate from a human reader. I
mean, if narrators/readers on commercial recordings, or in house so to speak
were to read in such a manner, let's just say that they would fail the
audition.
I say all of this just to say that I am a user of Bookshare, and do quite a
bit of reading on my PC, and WE's verbal pacing using Eloquence to me is more
human sounding than these more human sounding voices, but only because of the
way these people at Vespero (spelling) have chosen to manipulate speech
delivery in say all mode.
As it stands, when using JAWS, I have to use Code Factory Eloquence, which
reads more to my satisfaction, but with another issue. That version of
Eloquence simply passes up my favored normal rate of speed of Window-Eyes's
41 to a step or two higher than I' like to read most of the time.
I also use IE for DAISY text books, but for little else.
WE is just a combination good/bad habit that I know I am ultimately going to
have to break, and I'm sure most of you all have come to the same conclusion.
There are things that WE will not read that both JAWS and Narrator will, but
on rare occasion, WE will still come through, but these are becoming les and
less frequent as time goes on. Too bad.
Oh well, I've rambled on far longer than I planned too. Don't wish to get
into any arguments about all of this. But just suffice it to say, that we
sure lost a hell of a great product with a fine company behind it.
On 1/7/2022 6:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
I am using windows 7 and I have that problem. I checked to see, in
the control pannel, whether the set file for thunderbird was at the top,
and it was. But I still can't read the body of a message. Pam.
-----Original Message----- From: Rick Jarvis via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 12:47 PM
To: Donald Roberts via Talk
Cc: Rick Jarvis
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
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