Hi,

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Christopher Schmidt
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52:16PM +0300, Ciprian Manea wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> @Calvin, OAM could use your dataset - TBs of (oblique) imagery,
>> currently stored as jpeg(?), but it's a bit unclear at the moment how
>> the imagery is (going to be) mapped to geo/coordinates.
>
> Note that Oblique imagery is something that is interesting, but I'm
> not sure that I understand how it would be integrated with the
> main thrust of the OAM project, which is to present an archive
> of ortho imagery (at least as a first step); while I'm happy to
> have people discuss how they think OAM could do this on the mailing
> list, I think it's something that's unlikely to work trivially with
> the way that the OAM revamp is designed.
>
> If the source imagery is hosted at stable URLs, registering it
> as unprocessed OAM imagery would make it available for browsing
> in the catalog, without exposing it to tools which are expecting
> ortho imagery -- in general, we expect at least a bounding box
> for unprocessed imagery, to at least be able to place it on a map. If
> this meta-information is available about the images, and stable
> URLs for each file exist, I'd be happy to work with whoever to help
> register these in the OAM archive for interested parties to explore.
>
>> Assuming we're
>> going to solve this part, is there any chance to host the data
>> @massdot and feed it via http to a caching system at @OAM before it
>> gets delivered to the internets?
>
> OAM isn't going to have some magical 'caching system' that I'm aware
> of; the primary thing OAM offers is the catalog, so just having
> MassDOT host it at stable URLs is sufficient for OAM, if it's
> useful at all.

Ok, in a broader sense the catalog can be seen also as a "caching
system" (were all [PD] imagery sources could be presented, saving time
for the OAM "integrators" so that they don't have to compile the list
over again from the various data/imagery providers)

>> On the other hand, there's still no news regarding the OAM infra (I
>> don't think I've seen many past pointers on talk@ regarding its
>> existence; just double checking). Any takers/helpers?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean.

I find the overall OAM documentation to be fairly "distributed", as:

- the www/wiki is stale for some months (ping Cristiano Giovando, oam.org)
- the www/wiki (still) includes past plans that could send newcomers
on false trails
- there are several good hints/pointers spread over various posts in
the mailing list
- ...

btw: where can I see the latest doc regarding the (current) OAM architecture?

On the "infra" side it would be nice to have a list of building blocks
with their ownership/donor, i.e. OAM is relying on:

- www.openaerialmap.org, owned by CG, hosted at BlueHost
- mailing list hosted by ..., available at ...
- source code hosted by GitHub at ...
- latest documentation published at www/doc
- server #1 can be donated by NN
- server #2 can be donated by NN
- storage TB can be donated/used from NN
- AWS (credits donated) by NN for powering the catalog service/API
- ...

For newcomers, I think up-to-date documentation is a must have in
order to quickly identify the gaps and allow any contributor to make
the most of their time/work on OAM.

P.S. I'm new, so I have questions. many :-)


Thanks,
Ciprian
---- A*

>  http://oam.osgeo.org/
>
> is up and running, and has been for more than 6 months; it has
> thousands of images in the catalog, and tools in
>
>  https://github.com/oam/oam
>
> are written to run against it, producing output like:
>
>  http://processedoam.s3.amazonaws.com/mit-knight-foundation-sm.jpg
>  http://processedoam.s3.amazonaws.com/4000pxdemo.jpg
>
> Although there is no hosting being done 'at' OAM, part of the
> revamp and design is so that there doesn't need to be: other than
> the catalog, all the pieces can be trivially distributed, meaning
> there is no need for large scale centralized hosting.

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