Hi, > Well, if your definition of better includes open, then no.
Sometimes when talking about OSM I say provocatively that we're so ruthlessly pragmatic that we would even switch to Oracle if someone gave us the stuff for free and it worked better than what we currently have. Nick's comment is in sync with that and it has a certain appeal; focusing too much on "open" sometimes makes you a grumpy ideologist. On the other hand, being one of the old(er) school hackers myself, I am often irritated at the warm embrace that Apple get from large parts of what I used to consider a critical geek community. At the 24c3 in December, an awful lot of hackers were seen with Mac notebooks, and not even with Linux on them - they seem to have no issue with every second application offering you to "shop" directly from the file menu, plus generously "phoning home" about all sorts of things you do. But then this is the generation that blogs and twitters and plazes... maybe, and I don't mean this in a rhetorical sense, maybe my generation has simply overrated privacy. But I digress. > > But what's the actual penetration of devices with GPS onboard? > > No idea, but I would certainly be interested in some numbers. IIRC > there was some press blurb in dec 2007 about 1 million N95's sold? Yes, here: http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2007/5492.htm "Europe UK : This week Nokia announced that the N95 handset, noted for its next-generation services including GPS, has sold a million units. This amounts to a significant success for a Smartphone in the UK market." Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
