Frederik Ramm wrote:
>Sent: 07 April 2008 1:52 AM
>To: Richard Fairhurst
>Cc: Talk Openstreetmap
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Relations not always brilliant
>
>Hi,
>
>> > If you simply use the "ref" tag to specify the road number, how would
>> > you then use the API to access all ways making up B4027?
>>
>> By using OSMXAPI: http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.5/way
>> [ref=B4027]
>
>Which will omit anything tagged "ref=B4027;B4028" or some such. Ok you
>said there shouldn't be any of those in the UK anyway so I guess
>you're fine...
>
>> That the mainstream API doesn't do it is (if it's deemed useful) a
>> deficiency in the API, not a reason to add duplicate data.
>
>I think it is a good idea to group objects that belong together in a
>relation. Ultimately I'd expect the relation to carry the "ref=B4027"
>tag and to drop that tag from the ways contained therein. Makes a lot
>of sense from a data modelling viewpoint I think.

I think it’s a leap of faith to think that we will even get to the position
were the relationship alone holds the grouped data, such as ref. I see that
there will always likely be duplication in this regard with the same
information being held on the component parts as well as the relationship. I
don’t see this as a bad thing, the components may have equal applicability
and use as the overall object, especially in different applications.

Cheers

Andy

>
>Agreed that we're not there yet but it is a good thing to aim at. I
>fully expect most ways to be part of one or more relations some time in
>the future so why not get used to it.
>
>Bye
>Frederik
>
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