Andy Allan wrote: > Seems sensible to me to have a shorthand. So where you have a type of > crossing that's for cyclists and pedestrians but not horses nor > canoes, and it's controlled by traffic lights (as opposed to not being > controlled at all), we could do with a shorthand way to tag it because > it's really common
...at least in your corner of the world. And it is vitally important that the renderers make special accomodations just for you. > and typing four or five tags every time is tedious Lets compare counts for each method. "Zebra" crossing: yours: 1 tag other: 1 tag "Pelican" crossing yours: 1 tag other: 2 tags "Toucan" crossing yours: 1 tag other: 2 tags "Pegasus" crossing yours: 1 tag other: 2 to 4 tags, depending on whether it is also a toucan crossing (From wikipedia: "If the crossing is to be used by pedestrians and cyclists too, then a parallel toucan crossing is placed next to the pegasus crossing." Does that mean they should really be separate crossing points entirely?) It's hardly "four or five tags every time." > and lets face it - editors don't support language-neutral presets and Surely preset definitions could be created in various languages, at least for JOSM. > it constitutes 0.4% of all the data in the planet *alone* > (...transport:space:vehicles:spaceshuttle=no...), Exaggerate much? Ludicrous example aside, it's not as if defining an access tag for a new vehicle requires that it be explicitly applied to every entity in the database... For what it's worth, while I agree completely with Steve Hill, I'd be fine with including the "shortcuts" just to make Andy happy. It's not like anyone else has to apply or render them... -Alex Mauer "hawke" _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk