On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Dermot McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/5/29 Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The NI border hasn't been put into the OSM database. > > It has. I've been tweaking bits of it for months now. Look for ID 24428706. > >> This is just an indication of the conflicted definition of country, >> nation, and national. The borders are in the OSM DB as admin_level 2 >> (national border). >> You try telling any one of those nationalities that they're not >> actually a country.... I'll stand well back when you do it. > > The word "country" needn't be a stumbling block here. That's just > language.
Who says I was just talking about language? Nobody said (as in the current wiki page doesn't) admin_level=2 represents sovereign states recognised by the UN... or whatever the concrete definition is that you're getting at. It says "country borders, such as the border between Austria and Germany". That's open to some interpretation, which may not have been the intention of the people writing the page, but there you go. > In German, "Land" can mean "Bundesland" just as often as it > means "country". But we can't go tagging UK internal borders the same > way as we do those of sovereign states, because it doesn't accurately > depict reality. Depends what reality you're trying to depict :-). Again, I get what you're saying and would tend to agree when using the same definition you're using, but I'd still stand back a bit when trying to explain it Dave _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
