As an aspiring mountain-hiking-OSMer, I've been trying to get the hang of sac_scale. I know that the typical terrain and what's considered difficult can vary *a lot* depending, on the typical terrain around.
Here in Bergen, Norway, we have a lot of mountains. Some steep, and some not-so-steep. But even the ones reachable from the city center can be demanding enough if you have no mountain-experience whatsoever. For reference, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Approved_features/Hiking is the approved features... What I find a little difficult, is the border between hiking, mountain_hiking and demanding_mountain_hiking. I guess the boundary to the alpine classes are more defined - that's when it starts to become impossible to get upwards and not fall down unless you also use your hands, in my book :) I have a few pictures, unfortunately they turned out a little difficult to see the steepness of them. Too few references. But, http://www.flickr.com/photos/vegard_engen/2810086485/ is taken downwards. About 3-4 meters to the bottom, so I guess you'd hardly die if you slid and fell, but you could break a leg. But still, the path is rocky and you have to be careful, and some people would definitely need to use their hands for balance - as stated on the page. But there's no ropes etc. These ones, hiking or mountain-hiking? http://www.flickr.com/photos/vegard_engen/2810112943/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/vegard_engen/2810929816/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/vegard_engen/2810080401/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/vegard_engen/2810114907/ And would people tag only the difficult stretches as the most difficult classification, or would it be ok to do whole stretches (i.e. between destinations/junctions of paths) as single classification. I guess that a lot of this *is* actually up to me, but I'm a strong supporter of actually agreeing on this as long as we are actually editing the same map, sort of :) All input and opinions (and the rest in the series: http://www.flickr.com/photos/vegard_engen/tags/osm/) is welcome :) -- - Vegard Engen, member of the first RFC1149 implementation team. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk