I think others have responded well to most of your rant, if not the please point it out and I'll respond.
On 3 Mar 2009, at 23:33, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Hi! > > I'm not sure you're aware, but you're currently on the best way to > make > the "license to kill" phrase come true! > > > First of all: If you're not aware, it's all about trust. When I first > uploaded data to OSM, I made sure about the license - so my effort > wasn't only commercially consumed. This level of trust was not build > on > any person known or the (at that time) not existing OSMF, but in the > text of the CC-by-SA license. > > > So let's get some facts straight! > > You want a license change for the OSM data. Fine, because there are > some > real troubles with the license. > > > However, the OSM mappers have done their part of the job to make the > vision of OSM all come true. THEY have provided the real life in it - > the data. Not only you or me itself, and not the lawyers involved. > > So if YOU want to change something it's YOUR duty to convince the > mappers! > > Simply saying "we're the OSMF board and we know what's good for you" > is > a very, very bad idea to build trust! Remember: We're not talking > about > a bot run to fix some tags, we're talking about the legal property of > the people involved! > > Hopefully obvious, it's a much better idea to convince people than to > force them to a "yes" / "no" decision. > > > Hopefully you know and trust the lawyers, foundation, whoever, ... > involved. WE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THEM SO WHY SHOULD WE MAGICALLY TRUST > THEM?!? > > There were NO!!! introduction of the players involved, no ideas how to > build trust in the community ... (e.g. what's the relation to the OSI > initiative?). > > > All in all, I must say that the current way of handling these things > in > this VERY SENSITIVE AREA is nothing but ridiculous! > > > Regards, ULFL > > P.S: Steve's recent mail were not providing any new information except > that laywers are expensive (BTW: I'm not in a hurry about a new > license) ... > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > Best Steve _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk