On 12 Mar 2009, at 08:55, Nick Black wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org>
wrote:
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
> In the past couple of license working group meetings we've been
trying
> to figure out how to get more input from the community on everything
> without descending in to a free-for-all.
For a second day in a row you're jumping straight in with abject
criticism of a process put in place by people working to help the
whole community - you included. If you are that concerned about
this, why not suggest a way to make this work better? Why not offer
to translate for any German speakers who would like to take part if
the call was only in English?
I've always felt that you were completely aligned behind the aims of
OSM - we can disagree, but at the end of the day we're all here for
the same reason. Right now, its really hard to find anything
positive or constructive in your ongoing bombardment of these lists.
I do agree Frederik has possibly over-reacted on this one, but equally
I think it would have been helpful for Steve to have acknowledged the
good work that has been going on on this list and on the wiki in his
absence. Equally I think SteveC is behaving pretty strangely around
this. He should put the 'evil' thing aside and get stuck into the
process - he must know answers to some of the questions we are
raising, why does he leave us trying to work it all out again?
In response to one of Frederik's questions I do know that the Use
Cases and Open Issues pages are being used by the working group
because I have read the minutes. I hope that is not about to change.
Incidentally no one from the licensing group has ever edited the 'Open
Issues' page or the 'Use Cases' pages - why not?
The voice call idea might work, however I would ask the working group
to provide any answers they already have to questions on the Open
Issues page before the event so that we don't waste time and also ask
you to be sensitive to Frederik's observation that voice calls make it
much harder for non-native speakers and are therefore the 'last
choice' for an international project such as this,
Regards,
Peter
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