On 23 Mar 2009, at 06:44, John Wilbanks wrote: >> But open data is much more than just science and education. It's more >> than OSM; it's more than maps. The assiduous >> how-late-is-my-sodding-train-today people on our town website, for >> example, are creating a database that could potentially be licensed >> openly. > > Well put. > > Then let's open up the license working group to science and education > and OSM and more.
Currently the working group is here to represent the OSM community. > Then let's do a real analysis of the environmental impact of the > license > on other communities where the PD is already working and could be > enclosed by an "open" database license. > > Then let's have more than a short window of comment time. > > But as far as I can tell, this is an OSM driven event. I don't know > anyone outside OSM as a community rep that's on the working group. Yet > it's being called an Open Database License for cross-community use. Yes, and comments in that context should be directed to Jordan and the ODC. > We spent about three years working on this across a range of > scientific > disciplines. CC has analyzed it in the context of education and > culture. > > We came to the PD conclusion. OSM doesn't want to go PD - that's fine, > in the end. But when you call the license written by and for a > streetmapping community a solution for the rest of the world when the > DBs and norms involved vary so much...well, it's odd to then get mad > when the rest of the world comes in and comments on it. I think you're conveniently skipping a lot of the politics behind that. > Trust me, I have a lot of other things to do with my time. But as long > as this license gets promoted as a generic solution for "open data" it > gets debated inside science, and that has the direct consequence of > enclosing the public domain in my space. My job is to prevent that. If > the name could simply be changed I would have a lot less problems > here... John if you start your emails in future with "My job is to prevent you doing this" it would all be a lot clearer. Everyone should be clear that you guys philosophically just don't want this, and you have to take out that bias to get at the substance. Best Steve _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk