Hi again,

looks like I have brought a lot of confusion in my previous posts by misuse
of the word 'alley'. The latter seems to have too broad range of meanings,
and many of them are not what I meant. Just compare
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alley (not good as a 'living_street') and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alley.JpG (might probably be).

Please consider the following proposed definition for a 'living_street':

'living_street' is a:
- pubic street or way
- in a residential area
- intended for mixed vehicle/pedestrian traffic
- where vehicles have extra limitations and pedestrians have extra rights as
compared to normal streets/ways (details depending on local legislation)
- may optionally have a name as a street
- may be optionally marked with "Residential Area" traffic sign where
appropriate.

Please kindly comment/criticize.

Regards.
Sergey


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "USHAKOV, Sergey" <usha...@int.com.ru>
To: <talk@openstreetmap.org>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <ava...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Is 'name' tag mandatory for a 'living_street'?


> Hi again and thanks to everyone who responded.
>
> Meanwhile I've got a feeling that I was maybe not clear enough in
> formulating my problem, and Ævar seems to get most close to my idea.
> Please
> let me formulate the problem in other words.
>
> In Russia traffic regulations make no difference (besides naming terms)
> betwen named streets marked with "Residential Area" sign and un-named
> alleys
> in residential areas that are not required to be marked with that sign. I
> guess that at least some of other countries may have similar regulations.
>
> With this in mind I would propose to tag as 'living_street" any
> street/alley
> that allows hybrid (pedestrian/vehicle) traffic with pedestrian priority,
> and the 'name' tag being optional for these objects. Does this make sense?
>
> To Ævar: creation of 'talk-ru' mailing list seems desirable as was already
> mentioned on the Russian forum as a limitation. BTW, wiki RU namespace is
> also still pending (
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki#multilingual_name_spaces )
> despite of significant activity. Can you help in getting it created?
>
> Regards,
> Sergey
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