Paul I think you may misunderstand the intention of the proposal - which I strongly support. I use route relations a great deal and find them very valuable indeed - but they do not meet the need for assigning a property (designation=) to a particular single stretch of way to describe its legal status. I very often find it is necessary to tag a way (a) for its physical condition on the ground using highway= , (b) for its legal status - hugely important to know whether it is permissible to walk a way, illegal to walk it or permissive - and to know whether use of the way in question is likely to meet with obstructions and, if so, whether there are legal remedies or not. I agree that there is a rendering problem. I do not see how a service= tag meets this need in any way - are you suggesting we use highway=service for a minor footpath that may not even be visible on the ground across fields but is a vital link between villages with a legal status and centuries of use? I fail to see the connection!
Mike Harris -----Original Message----- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] Sent: 11 June 2009 02:43 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Designation Richard Mann wrote: > This is a request for comments on the proposal for a new > Key:designation. Hopefully it's had it's rough edges removed already, > but I would appreciate your comments. > > Richard > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Designation I'm opposed; this seems like a duplication of effort for what route relations are currently for, and creates redundancy and overlap in scope with the service= and highway= tags. As such, this really sounds like a step in the wrong direction. Perhaps expanding the service= tags and getting the mapnik and osmarender we use on the slippymap to render these things instead of route tags on the underlying ways when the underlying way is a member of a route=road relation. The cyclemap is getting this right; but strangely, none of the other renderers. And it's not like it would be that hard to get that fixed; someone's already rendering road relations complete with correct highway badges already. http://weait.com/maps/?zoom=11&lat=43.14469&lon=-79.17383&layers=0B0 _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk